Samurai 20V Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Hi Guys. As the title says, how much power do you reckon a Supra needs to outrun a stock R35 GTR? A mate of mine bought one and he wants to test it out against my BPU TT6.. I reckon I am gonna get a hiding of note.. Opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I'd imagine at least 650bhp, though you'd be hard to get a better launch and power delivery from low down. You have to remember the tech on the GTR is only a few years old in comparison to our Supra's. Higher end you should be able to rein him in, the GTR getting to top speed doesn't seem to be great, remember seeing a few video's. Acceleration though on a stock R35 GTR is rapid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 A lot will depend on who likes their clutch the most. Rolling start for the mechanically sympathetic - find a speed where you're at the start of your power band but he's toward the top of his rev range and will have to shift soon afterwards? You'll still lose, but by a slightly reduced margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I'd imagine at least 650bhp, though you'd be hard to get a better launch and power delivery from low down. You have to remember the tech on the GTR is only a few years old in comparison to our Supra's. Higher end you should be able to rein him in, the GTR getting to top speed doesn't seem to be great, remember seeing a few video's. Acceleration though on a stock R35 GTR is rapid. That's a good point, they don't seem to go anywhere after 120mph+. Track day speeds though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 If its a 0-60 outrun I would say near to 1000hp if its on street tires. These GTRs launch HARD! If its down the 1/4 I reckon 600hp might just cut it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 I was not planning on going from launch, I would definitely get cremated, more like a 2nd gear roll.. What sort of 400m times do they run in stock form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I was not planning on going from launch, I would definitely get cremated, more like a 2nd gear roll.. What sort of 400m times do they run in stock form? I think somewhere in the 10s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADZsupra Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I wouldnt waste your petrol..the GTR will cane you. Its basically one big computer that can deliver its 500+bhp very quickly and efficiently..each and every time through its 4wd. The supra is old technology...awesome none the less but where as we have to launch right..watch slippage...gear changes...traction etc.. The GTR basically does it for you. for a supra to indeed woop or pull away from one id say it needs to be a very responsive 650+bhp...ideally 800bhp...or for a walk in the park just borrow jamie p's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 I think somewhere in the 10s Thats mad... I wouldnt waste your petrol..the GTR will cane you. Its basically one big computer that can deliver its 500+bhp very quickly and efficiently..each and every time through its 4wd. The supra is old technology...awesome none the less but wheteas we have to launch right..watch slippage...gear changes...traction etc.. The GTR basically does it for you. for a supra to indeed woop or pull away from one id say its needs to be very responsive at 650+bhp...ideally 800bhp...or for a walk in the park just borrow jamie p's Yeah, I reckon you right, its just for fun though.. I definitely understand that the tech in it is fantastic... It must be awesome to drive.. I got my eye on an ATS LSD, maybe I can get it fitted b4 I race him.. Jamie Ps car will embarrass many a supercar in the world.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADZsupra Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Syvecs launch control and some nitrous would be interesting though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I was not planning on going from launch, I would definitely get cremated, more like a 2nd gear roll.. What sort of 400m times do they run in stock form? I think somewhere in the 10s Not in stock form no, more like mid 11's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Not in stock form no, more like mid 11's. Still impressive.. A BPU is gonna have to be pushed really hard to get close to that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Still impressive.. A BPU is gonna have to be pushed really hard to get close to that... Think Brian's (TDR) achieved that on his BPU auto. Not bad for a car with nearly 20 years apart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Don't forget the GTR has a LOT of weight and is generally a big old car. I think a few of you would be surprised. It'll all rest on the launch, but if from a rolling start or you caught the GTR driver napping it'd be close. I did 3.3 seconds to 62mph in a GTR a few weeks ago at Nissan's test track, but I still maintain my old Supra was a far more exciting car to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 supras have no traction thats what makes them so much fun, i think if mine had traction control i would of sold it ages ago, come on its a 19year old road car in some cases. very fast but still its gt car not for 0-60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 here is a LFA vs GTR [video=youtube;A5R-oi91bd4] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Think Brian's (TDR) achieved that on his BPU auto. Not bad for a car with nearly 20 years apart! For sure, very impressive.. Any idea on the quickest BPU TT6? I reckon a proper clutch would be needed to push into the 11s.. Don't forget the GTR has a LOT of weight and is generally a big old car. I think a few of you would be surprised. It'll all rest on the launch, but if from a rolling start or you caught the GTR driver napping it'd be close. I did 3.3 seconds to 62mph in a GTR a few weeks ago at Nissan's test track, but I still maintain my old Supra was a far more exciting car to drive. I had a look at my mates one today, its huge.. Rolling from 4000rpm in 3rd might be in the Supras favour, but as mentioned before it will be a tough duel.. From launch requires some skill, not sure I am there yet... I also prefer a more mechanical car, not a fan off all the electronic aids.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADZsupra Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 For sure, very impressive.. Any idea on the quickest BPU TT6? I reckon a proper clutch would be needed to push into the 11s.. I had a look at my mates one today, its huge.. Rolling from 4000rpm in 3rd might be in the Supras favour, but as mentioned before it will be a tough duel.. From launch requires some skill, not sure I am there yet... I also prefer a more mechanical car, not a fan off all the electronic aids.. stu hagen in the states is running 11s all day long but his hybrids n setup is way beyond bpu.Theres a few bpu's in the club running fast times on stock twins so its possible! Im hoping for a good time on my mega spec'd bpu at the pod in july but i think GTR times are pushing it lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 stu hagen in the states is running 11s all day long but his hybrids n setup is way beyond bpu.Theres a few bpu's in the club running fast times on stock twins so its possible! Im hoping for a good time on my mega spec'd bpu at the pod in july but i think GTR times are pushing it lol. Cool mate.. I would be overjoyed to get into the 11's, but tough job.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky49 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Depends on how much HP the recovery truck has that the GTR is sat on. Seen 2 last week and 3 since sunday this week on the back of recovery trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyTwo Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I love the GTR, just shows what the Japanese can really do when they set their minds to it. Same as the Supra 18+ years ago! There is a white GTR round the corner from where I live and tbh I looks fast just parked up, Im not even going to try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADZsupra Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Cool mate.. I would be overjoyed to get into the 11's, but tough job.. yeah im guna aim for a 12.??? And see how i do. Im only pushing 1.2bar with my AFR's in the 11's so nice and safe for now...up the boost and redo the fuelling once i know what it can do at present Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Depends on how much HP the recovery truck has that the GTR is sat on. Seen 2 last week and 3 since sunday this week on the back of recovery trucks. They do not have a good rep for reliability.. But I hear the new editions are sorted, plus they are faster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 yeah im guna aim for a 12.??? And see how i do. Im only pushing 1.2bar with my AFR's in the 11's so nice and safe for now...up the boost and redo the fuelling once i know what it can do at present Good luck.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADZsupra Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Il need it!!!you too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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