Sheefa Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Hi All I was caught speeding on the M40 between junction 3 and 5 doing 87mph on the way to Gatwick Airport. The date of the offence was 25th Feb 2012. Thames Valley Police have sent through the ticket and the letter was dated 30th April. I am currently driving a rental car following the theft of my vehicle back in September. Therefore, I believe the police may have contacted the Rental company first to obtain my details and then sent through the letter - but I cannot be sure. What time period to the police 'have' to issue these penalty notices/court summons within please? May I have a case here as it is 2 months down the line? I thought I was in the clear. Thanks Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 PS: It was a Handheld Speed Detector. I did see the Officer on the bridge and knew I was too late so didnt bother braking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ugp Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Check out the pepipoo forums, I'm pretty sure you can tell them to foxtrot oscar though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Yes from what i have read, the NIP has to arrive within a 14 day period from the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I'm sure they have to send you a Notice Of Intended Prosecution within 2 weeks of the incident? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackin_n_bashin Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 The NOIP must go to the registered owner within 2 weeks, unfortunately if it was a rental, and they contacted the rental people within the 2 weeks, your buggered. They can take almost as long as they want to contact you, as they have fulfilled their part by contacting the company. I went through it a few years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I'm sure they have to send you a Notice Of Intended Prosecution within 2 weeks of the incident? I think due to it being a rental car there are different rules though, If it was your own car then that I believe is when the 14days rule apply... Foxtrot Oscar = Brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 The NOIP must go to the registered owner within 2 weeks, unfortunately if it was a rental, and they contacted the rental people within the 2 weeks, your buggered. They can take almost as long as they want to contact you, as they have fulfilled their part by contacting the company. I went through it a few years ago That's what I'm thinking. I will have to contact the rental company to see if the Police have been in contact. Thanks Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 The NOIP must go to the registered owner within 2 weeks, unfortunately if it was a rental, and they contacted the rental people within the 2 weeks, your buggered. They can take almost as long as they want to contact you, as they have fulfilled their part by contacting the company. I went through it a few years ago This is correct. Traffic law has 1 year after the incident to get the matter to court before it becomes time barred. Seek legal advice, but you have been identified by the rental company of the car at that time and date. Only options I think you have are to request the: Calibration certificate for the speed gun Training certificates for the officers utilising it Picture/video evidence of the event As stated though speak to a specialist lawyer and see if they think you have a case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzki Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I will have to contact the rental company to see if the Police have been in contact. How else would they have obtained your details? Lucky guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 How else would they have obtained your details? Lucky guess? Sorry, I was supposed to say I'll see what timeframe the Police contacted them within ! I.e I'm hoping it was outside of the 14 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 This is correct. Traffic law has 1 year after the incident to get the matter to court before it becomes time barred. Seek legal advice, but you have been identified by the rental company of the car at that time and date. Only options I think you have are to request the: Calibration certificate for the speed gun Training certificates for the officers utilising it Picture/video evidence of the event As stated though speak to a specialist lawyer and see if they think you have a case. Thanks Mate. I will take the points and pay fine, no point in fully contesting it other than the delayed time period of receiving the notification if that stacks up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzki Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Sorry, I was supposed to say I'll see what timeframe the Police contacted them within ! I.e I'm hoping it was outside of the 14 days. Good point and probably your only hope judging by the advice here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I'd take the ticket down to your local police station and tell them you've only just received it and it's 2 months old. If you don't mention its not your car and they don't think to ask, they may be able to cancel it there possibly? I don't know how it works but its worth a try i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 Just spoke to the Rental Company - the Police contacted them on 7th March and offense was within 14 days prior. Gutted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 GH_StQ6KdW0 They caught him on the camera, wasnt sheef. Sent him a nasty letter.........wasnt sheef. Hire car company grassed him............wasnt sheef. Same plod got the wife on the motorway last year 3 mph over the "watch the nasty video" effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 If you hadn't posted on here it might not have been you driving at the time.... Now there's an admission trail I have had it drummed in to me by all the legal members of my family that you never admit to anything. Nick Freeman would be tearing his hair out at this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozz Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 If you hadn't posted on here it might not have been you driving at the time.... Now there's an admission trail I have had it drummed in to me by all the legal members of my family that you never admit to anything. Nick Freeman would be tearing his hair out at this! First thing insurers say too, but perhaps thats part of the underlying issues in our society - lack of accountability. He was speeding, he got caught, tough. I remember complaining about getting flashed and I was sure I was doing the speed limit - but I'd missed a sign changing the speed (it was in an area the speed changes a lot). I was going to complain about signs but realised, hey I did miss the sign, its my fault. As it turned out it never got progressed anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 First thing insurers say too, but perhaps thats part of the underlying issues in our society - lack of accountability. He was speeding, he got caught, tough. I remember complaining about getting flashed and I was sure I was doing the speed limit - but I'd missed a sign changing the speed (it was in an area the speed changes a lot). I was going to complain about signs but realised, hey I did miss the sign, its my fault. As it turned out it never got progressed anyway. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 You have the moral high ground, of course. If everyone took the high ground many would have a nice warm feeling, but probably have no licence and a lesser bank account A lot of solicitors and barristers would also be out of job. Many would perhaps not worry about that too much though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 solicitors and barristers out of work you say. Hmm not all bad then Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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