Al Massey Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Do you run with the distributer or with coil packs? Can it be run either way? And what is involved converting to coil packs? Just weighing up my options and seeing what's best Cheers Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Do you run with the distributer or with coil packs? Distributor, will be going Coils soon. Can it be run either way? Yes. Dizzy or Coils is a form of ignition but both do the same job. Ignition has seperate chamber control where the dizzy does not have as much control over seperate chamber ingition timing. And what is involved converting to coil packs? Standalone ECU to be able to create all 6 chamber signals as the engine will only give out 1 pulse from the cam position and 1 pulse from the crank (when you remove the dizzy). Just weighing up my options and seeing what's best Research is key. A guy on Clubna-t removed the dizzy and run with coils using the dizzy sensor. There are various ways to do this, look for various distributorless threads. Wastespark coils can be used for AEM units that can't produce as many as 6 outputs, TT coils or other engine coils have been used. DaveH (king of NA-T's) in the US used truck coils for his 900hp+ builds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Turism0 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 does anyone know the power limits of the stock dizzy? I'm going to be converting to CoP, have a read of this which details how to delete the dizzy mate - http://forum.clubna-t.com/showthread.php?t=11088 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I am unsure of the limits, the most of seen on a build thread with the dizzy still was 700bhp. That had a stock ECU with a piggy back also. I think 600hp is pushing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) The neatest solution would be to fit a 36-1 trigger wheel to the crank pulley and a Ford reluctor (£12 - £15). Trouble with having your rpm ref and your phase trigger on the cam is timing inaccuracies due to belt whip. Then buy some quality coils like Bosch T coils (from the OZ ford Falcon) and set the timing on the coils using a 3D dwell map so you can run wasted spark without heating them at the top end (not that you could heat up a T-Coil). However, You can machine and weld the worm drive gear on the exhaust cam to give you one Phase tooth and just use another FORD reluctor to pick up off it. It just so happens I have a full set of 6 Bosch T Coils so you will get to see what they perform like. Lyndon. Edited April 30, 2012 by Nodalmighty (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Wouldn't it just be easier to keep the NA CPS from the dizzy instead of having to create another worm gear on the cam, as there is already one on there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Wouldn't it just be easier to keep the NA CPS from the dizzy instead of having to create another worm gear on the cam, as there is already one on there? Read my post again, lol Lyndon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Cheers for the input guys May have to consider going coil packs at a later date me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Read my post again, lol Lyndon. Lol good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Cheers for the input guys May have to consider going coil packs at a later date me thinks good idea mate im running a coilpacks needed it for the syvecs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Turism0 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I am unsure of the limits, the most of seen on a build thread with the dizzy still was 700bhp. That had a stock ECU with a piggy back also. I think 600hp is pushing it. I know SPRacing got 704rwhp with the stock dizzy but with ProEfi Ignition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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