mellonman Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 i dont read news papers or watch the news didnt know the ban was on yet, had heard people talk about it but no comfirmed date ignorance is bliss, For people that want to clean the car wax it well and then use detailer every week you wont need to wash it with water at all, i see the point of the ban being that there was not much rain in the early part of the year BUT now there is but it takes time to filter it all, its not just the hose pipe that is to blame,over population do play a roll, you can also save water other ways like everday things Turning off the tap while brushing your teeth having showers not baths, dont flush everytime (you will know when). water butts to water the garden. These are just a couple off the top of my head,i know its anouying being told what to do by a goverment that fiddle taxes and have dropped us in the stink,but dont take water for granted, businesses can still use water freely due it would take away there lively hood (business) if they didnt.human rights maybe. my point is whats the big deal so what if you cant use a hosepipe,i hardly ever use mine even when theres not a ban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Just my theory upon my research and what I personally beleive, come on I can't see co2 effecting the globe especially by us humans , but i see tax effecting the globe . Yes, you're right. If we didn't have taxation the world would be a much better place wouldn't it? Oh no wait, I mean far worse don't I? Far, FAR worse. So go on then, endulge us: let's see some of this research which shows how a hosepipe ban helps the government tax us all more. Surely using less water means less tax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 We are seriously considering a bore hole, a friend has one and it should pay for itself within ten years. We use a lot f water, but not for cleaning the cars, that's against my religion I'm afraid That's interesting as we have a natural well in in our back yard that was capped off back in the 60s. I have seriously been thinking about seeing whats involved in "uncapping" it. At the moment it just looks like a concrete block with a steel ring in the centre but there doesnt appear to be a gap around the edge, it almost blends in with the rest of the concreted area, I fear that originally it was a liftable slab, but then someone formed a concrete area around it. If things get any worse I will have to investigate further. Anglia water tell me I can fill my pool so long as I use a bucket filled from a tap and not a hose, wont take long eh. Just as well I filled it in March. Mind you with the rain we have had recently I dont think it would have been an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The price of hiring a skip has gone up by massive amounts, a tax on getting shot of rubbish. Do we throw less away, no, we just pay 30% more in tax for the privilage. Is ignorance like a genuine hobby for you or something? I don't see how you can be so against all the 'illegals' you moan about yet at the same time berate the services and decisions of your beloved country. That's all backwards mate. Pick a subject to moan about and stick to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 at some of the comments in this thread I can't imagine what you'll do when theres a stand pipe at the end of your street and nothing comes out your taps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 If the water is low in my area manage it better. Whether or not I agree with the ban, I had to smile at this. What, I ask you, is a hosepipe ban classed as? Water.... management...? Perhaps? Time for me to see if I really can wash the car in my new garage with the door closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Yes, you're right. If we didn't have taxation the world would be a much better place wouldn't it? Oh no wait, I mean far worse don't I? Far, FAR worse. So go on then, endulge us: let's see some of this research which shows how a hosepipe ban helps the government tax us all more. Surely using less water means less tax? But no, Gods work doesnt have any input on the rivers running dry, its all down to privatisation and Londoners not paying enough to fix leaks. If thames water stop receiving millions of pounds of tax payer money in bonuses whilst their pipelines piss away half a billion gallons a day in leakage. But i will be slightly more considerate to their cause when the works they do organise to fix pipes are conducted efficiently and quickly, instead of half of suburban london grinding to a stop for weeks at a time whilst their unmanned work sites sit dormant . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyTwo Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I understand the whole water shortage etc not a problem I wont use mains water supply to do anything I dont have to anyway, but I cant see why using a hose and waterpump or using a PW off a waterbutt filled with rainwater is a problem for Anglian Water. The rules dont make sense, I know I can wash a car with my PW running off 1 bucket of water (50l bucket) but im not allowed to. However I can fill said bucket as many times as I like from the tap and throw it over the car. Which wastes more? The way I look at it is Im using my PW off my waterbutt which are both owned by me, using rain water that inst owned by anyone, Im not even using the services provided by Anglian water. So they can bugger right off. Also helps that I have a business regiserted to my home, but thats not the point and I dont NEED to use water for this. The rules havent been thought through enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 But no, Gods work doesnt have any input on the rivers running dry, its all down to privatisation and Londoners not paying enough to fix leaks. If thames water stop receiving millions of pounds of tax payer money in bonuses whilst their pipelines piss away half a billion gallons a day in leakage. But i will be slightly more considerate to their cause when the works they do organise to fix pipes are conducted efficiently and quickly, instead of half of suburban london grinding to a stop for weeks at a time whilst their unmanned work sites sit dormant . So how does that relate in any way to the hosepipe ban we have in Cambridgeshire? Oh, and don't bring god into it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 So how does that relate in any way to the hosepipe ban we have in Cambridgeshire? Oh, and don't bring god into it! Maybe the companies managing director is actually spending the tax payers money fixing any leakages, i'm pretty sure once summer does actually start, which I doubt they might have the ban in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Why don't you all just go and wash your cars whilst it's pis*ing with rain? Won't need any kind of rinse water then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Why don't you all just go and wash your cars whilst it's pis*ing with rain? Won't need any kind of rinse water then. I'm just shocked at how many car wash places near me are not closed down, maybe they pay extra tax or money to thames water....... Very less doubt that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Maybe the companies managing director is actually spending the tax payers money fixing any leakages, i'm pretty sure once summer does actually start, which I doubt they might have the ban in place. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyTwo Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Good to see the old boy a few doors down can still water his lawn and PW his driveway tho. Oh yeah, blue badge holder..... FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Why don't you all just go and wash your cars whilst it's pis*ing with rain? Won't need any kind of rinse water then. i have acually tried this doesnt work to well, A, you get totally soaked even in your shoes B, it really has to be hammering it down to rise anything away. C, you have to wait along time if not days to buff it when its dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzki Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 We are seriously considering a bore hole, a friend has one and it should pay for itself within ten years. We use a lot f water, but not for cleaning the cars, that's against my religion I'm afraid Great idea Chris, I'm looking into boreholes at the moment, we only go through 4-5000ltrs a week at the minute for the animals and have no mains water on the farm. We make do with rain harvesting which has worked well up to now. A 20minute downpour will fill the tanks to capacity. We are right at the limit of animals vs water though. A friend of ours who is a dairy farmer had quarterly bills of £2000+ and recently had a borehole put in, cost him £6000iirc and will cost £320 for maintenance yearly, quite a saving. On the subject of car washing Its against my religion as well, my work truck gets a yearly wash at mot time, and it only gets that as the tester tells me I have to. The car gets washed every few months and then its using a pressure washer using the harvested rain water in the tanks when they are full. So if I can keep 1/2acre of veg garden, 80 sheep, 50 pigs, 2 horses, 3 alpacas, various ducks and chickens supplied with water and also wash a truck, car, 2 tractors and various machinery etc whenever I like without even having mains water, how come so many people have a problem with washing 1 car that a lot of times only sees the light of day on sunny days? I guess it comes down to an expectation of what we 'deserve' I pay my taxes etc and happily pay some of the most expensive water bills in the country, I am not on a meter at home so can use as much water as I like but I don't. We are supposedly now in a drought area which is a curious thought as I trudge around in 6" of mud and water at 7am. Edit: I also wash the car in the rain, I find the mud is easier to get off and is getting wet for 20mins really that bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nurotix Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Local jetwash, £3, it's indoors, shampoo, wheel brush, rinse and wax, 10 minutes, job done. I can't remember the last time I owned a bucket and sponge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever But having loads of car wash places around London does? I just see more opening, or maybe it makes sense they are a business you go to them now to wash your car, they earn more they pay more tax . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 But having loads of car wash places around London does? I just see more opening, or maybe it makes sense they are a business you go to them now to wash your car, they earn more they pay more tax . I meant your post didn't make any sense... The reason they can't stop businesses from using hosepipes is that it's some people's living. The Government isn't in the business of putting more people out of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I meant your post didn't make any sense... The reason they can't stop businesses from using hosepipes is that it's some people's living. The Government isn't in the business of putting more people out of work. Are you certain of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 It's a shameless plug but if anyone wants a good deal on some borehole pumps, rainwater harvesting systems etc then I may be able to help. http://www.flowtech.org.uk/ Or pm me. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin-mkiv Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Have any Africans sent us their 2 quids yet then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Have any Africans sent us their 2 quids yet then?? Somehow i don't think the image of forlorn Brit's having to use a bucket to clean their cars will cut it:p Mind you i am getting sick of the adds at every commercial break, asking for money, what gets me is we have been giving money to these country's since the late 60s for support, bore holes, pumps, food etc, and they still haven't overcome any of the problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Somehow i don't think the image of forlorn Brit's having to use a bucket to clean their cars will cut it:p Mind you i am getting sick of the adds at every commercial break, asking for money, what gets me is we have been giving money to these country's since the late 60s for support, bore holes, pumps, food etc, and they still haven't overcome any of the problems. what we need to give them are condoms if anything, less people = more water and food for each of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Are you certain of that? Aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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