dude Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Remember if you're going for 600+bhp, you'll have to budget for a 6-speed conversion or the cheaper option being to fit a built auto box. What sort of budget were you looking at? Like Dnk said its torque and how you drive, I give autos away and they are quite easy to fit, even if they only last 6 months it will take a long time paying mechanics to fit autos to spend more than a 6 speed conversion and the clutches you will need. Titan box and Hi stall is pretty cheap anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Not with what ive got planned James:eyebrows: I fancy a very low 10 or high 9 sec daily driver again;) amen to that brother look forward to joining you...(high 10 for me though would be great!)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 amen to that brother look forward to joining you...(high 10 for me though would be great!)! [/QUO Im warming to my little black stealth mobile, time for her to kick some ass !!!! Absolutly wasted an M3 on Sunday !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Absolutly wasted an M3 on Sunday !!!!! come on John you gotta be aiming higher than that kind of tosh on the roads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 come on John you gotta be aiming higher than that kind of tosh on the roads Couldnt help it, he asked and I answered, it was funny he would not come near me for the next 10 miles, proper spanked him up Handcross hill..................................all the way to 70 officer !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14PPA Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 Im selling my complete turbo set up/ecu/traction control and boost controller and fuel system, it will do 603 hp makes 1 bar boost by 3000rpm and 370 ft torque at 2500rpm you would only need a fuel reg and line as long as you are BPU and have a FMIC. Send me a message with a price and ill let you no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14PPA Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 Remember if you're going for 600+bhp, you'll have to budget for a 6-speed conversion or the cheaper option being to fit a built auto box. What sort of budget were you looking at? Havent really got a budget. Im looking to keep the car for a long time. I will spend alot on the car but not all at once. I will buy a boost logic box eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 10k is definitely the ballpark figure to do it IMO. Even buying a whole kit 2nd hand would still take a few more K to make it right. I wouldn't build a single turbo car without a syvecs nowadays, I also wouldn't want to go for any less than 600-700hp (I laugh when I think this but it's the going rate). In your case that's going to take either a 6spd or a built auto box. If you're not doing it yourself you need to budget 2k in labour (to do it right), if you want all the bells and whistles with the build you'll probably need another 500-1k on top of that for the labour. I wiped out 10k in no time at all just buying parts, and that was me doing a lot of it 2nd hand. Clutch - Not a kick in the crack off of 2k ECU - £1600 Turbo Kit - Almost £2k (included fuel rail, injectors etc) Turbo - Almost £1k Exhaust - I went a bit nuts and bought 2 but you need to budget £500 minimum IMO. That's 7k before even thinking about all the other odds and sods that go along with it. FMIC, decent rubber, decent width wheels, fuel pump(pumps), fuel kit (FPR, lines, etc) and any other toys you want to have. Bare in mind, the main brunt of everything I bought is 2nd hand. But if you're going to do it, do it right with the best you can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Dude you wouldnt mind fitting your turbo kit to my dads supra for free would you? HAHA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Scott M just pointing out that "Going single isnt cheap" Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Dude you wouldnt mind fitting your turbo kit to my dads supra for free would you? HAHA! Free fitting is fine..............................we just need to decide what the kit is worth;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 As above there are obvious things but I would have your engine checked over first by a garage. Then realise that in all honesty single builds can't be done on a budget and whilst people can list loads of bits there will be a tonne of other small parts costing a fortune. I once had a budget on mine which has since died a death. It's expensive, especially if you buy everything new. Your autobox is the biggest limiting factor at the moment (other than potentially your budget). Go speak to a garage who will be better able to guide you through what you need and can manage your expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Couldnt help it, he asked and I answered, it was funny he would not come near me for the next 10 miles, proper spanked him up Handcross hill..................................all the way to 70 officer !!!! A kill is a kill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I also wouldn't want to go for any less than 600-700hp . Why's that? Have you ever driven a 600hp single supra mate? I think people, including me, in the past have got WAY too caught up on numbers....600bhp in a rear wheel drive car is bloody crazy and a handful. Even a GT35R midly tunbed at around 550hp is still a ridicuklously quick car and will hand most things on the road their arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Why's that? Have you ever driven a 600hp single supra mate? Even a GT35R midly tunbed at around 550hp is still a ridicuklously quick car and will hand most things on the road their arse. Thats the problem ! It feels quick on the road, allmost too quick to be safe, but slow on a drag strip or top speed event, no one needs 800++hp.......but its nice to have at the flick of switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Why's that? Have you ever driven a 600hp single supra mate? I think people, including me, in the past have got WAY too caught up on numbers....600bhp in a rear wheel drive car is bloody crazy and a handful. Even a GT35R midly tunbed at around 550hp is still a ridicuklously quick car and will hand most things on the road their arse. Yeah driven a couple now, I don't do many miles so the actual figure isn't really my point... my point is where the "game" average is now. I'd want to be in the mix kind of thing. I'm going to be limiting my car to 700hp (if I hit it) but I think I'll rarely be driving it at those boost levels, for both my underwears sake and my engines. I'm thinking it'll also keep me entertained in that if I drive around at a conservative 500+ level and then feel the need for speed I can get a huge grin by bumping it up a few notches, this will hopefully keep my hunger for more power a little more in check. Its relatively easy to get 700+hp now and the fact that cost doesn't REALLY come into it with regards of the difference between 500 & 700, not to mention the fact that the spool of the modern turbos means that there isn't a great deal of benefit, means for me that it isn't really worth planning a build for anything less..... even if you don't actually run at that figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Yeah driven a couple now, I don't do many miles so the actual figure isn't really my point... my point is where the "game" average is now. I'd want to be in the mix kind of thing. I'm going to be limiting my car to 700hp (if I hit it) but I think I'll rarely be driving it at those boost levels, for both my underwears sake and my engines. I'm thinking it'll also keep me entertained in that if I drive around at a conservative 500+ level and then feel the need for speed I can get a huge grin by bumping it up a few notches, this will hopefully keep my hunger for more power a little more in check. Its relatively easy to get 700+hp now and the fact that cost doesn't REALLY come into it with regards of the difference between 500 & 700, not to mention the fact that the spool of the modern turbos means that there isn't a great deal of benefit, means for me that it isn't really worth planning a build for anything less..... even if you don't actually run at that figure. The fact is that unless you run 888's or similar and get em up to temp you will not put down even 700hp on the road till over 100mph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 The fact is that unless you run 888's or similar and get em up to temp you will not put down even 700hp on the road till over 100mph Sounds like fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 The fact is that unless you run 888's or similar and get em up to temp you will not put down even 700hp on the road till over 100mph exactly mate - my old 295 R888's still had the back end out until they were properly warmed up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellstrom Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 First of all i would make sure that the engine is sound with a leakdown test and pretty much take it form there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14PPA Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 Unless you have spent a lot of money on the exterior, suspension and interior of your car so it looks the way you want; It would be much cheaper and logical to buy one already single. There is currently some very nice examples for sale in this forum for sale. Some members prefer to build their own because they enjoy learning about new products and are have enthusiasm for motorsport engineering but for somebody like yourself is just after having a faster supra, it makes better sense to buy one already with a mega spec and you will save at least 10k. ive spent 10k on making it look how i want. so im keeping this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14PPA Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 10k is definitely the ballpark figure to do it IMO. Even buying a whole kit 2nd hand would still take a few more K to make it right. I wouldn't build a single turbo car without a syvecs nowadays, I also wouldn't want to go for any less than 600-700hp (I laugh when I think this but it's the going rate). In your case that's going to take either a 6spd or a built auto box. If you're not doing it yourself you need to budget 2k in labour (to do it right), if you want all the bells and whistles with the build you'll probably need another 500-1k on top of that for the labour. I wiped out 10k in no time at all just buying parts, and that was me doing a lot of it 2nd hand. Clutch - Not a kick in the crack off of 2k ECU - £1600 Turbo Kit - Almost £2k (included fuel rail, injectors etc) Turbo - Almost £1k Exhaust - I went a bit nuts and bought 2 but you need to budget £500 minimum IMO. That's 7k before even thinking about all the other odds and sods that go along with it. FMIC, decent rubber, decent width wheels, fuel pump(pumps), fuel kit (FPR, lines, etc) and any other toys you want to have. Bare in mind, the main brunt of everything I bought is 2nd hand. But if you're going to do it, do it right with the best you can afford. that sounds ok to me. most of the work i will be doing myself as im a mechanic but i will need the tuning done as im no specialist in that field. what turbo do you recomend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14PPA Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 Why's that? Have you ever driven a 600hp single supra mate? I think people, including me, in the past have got WAY too caught up on numbers....600bhp in a rear wheel drive car is bloody crazy and a handful. Even a GT35R midly tunbed at around 550hp is still a ridicuklously quick car and will hand most things on the road their arse. jamesy i agree with you. for now anyway. this is my daily driver so anymore than 600bhp for a 23 year old will be too much. until after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 that sounds ok to me. most of the work i will be doing myself as im a mechanic but i will need the tuning done as im no specialist in that field. what turbo do you recomend? Like I said im selling the WHOLE set up off mine bolt it on and go 600hp for 2 days work !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 If i had the spare cash dude, id snap that up in a second! Unfortunately, im still saving for a getrag so full bpu is my target for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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