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i really do hate the goverment, if there that concerned about polution, why dont they ban all cars and make us shag horses.

 

I don't see how that would help. Have all the Welsh finished with sheep then?

 

This is madness. To implement measures that could cost business 10's of thousands of pounds during a recession. They are already under massive pressure with rising fuel prices, insurance etc. I know a lot of contractors who work in London and this will not be welcomed.

 

Why not wait till we are out of recession before making laws and rules that will cost poeple money, when they have it they may not mind being forced to spend it. It would also boost the economy when the time is right.

 

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I don't see how that would help. Have all the Welsh finished with sheep then?

 

This is madness. To implement measures that could cost business 10's of thousands of pounds during a recession. They are already under massive pressure with rising fuel prices, insurance etc. I know a lot of contractors who work in London and this will not be welcomed.

 

Why not wait till we are out of recession before making laws and rules that will cost poeple money, when they have it they may not mind being forced to spend it. It would also boost the economy when the time is right.

 

H.

 

Because that makes too much sense. ;)

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this country is backwards, i watch a programe on hongkong, why its the riches city in the world, they lowerd all taxes, soo people had more money, spent more etc etc, sooo insted of all these taxes raping my wallet, if petrol, tax, insurance and everything else was cheep i wouldnt mind filling up my supra everyweek, i wouldnt mind spending money, because id have some

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Err... it's getting rid of the highest polluting vehicles in a seriously polluted city. Can't see a problem with it :)

 

Makes no sense, yet again this will hit thise who can't afford it. If contractors had the money to upgrade their fleet they probably would be doing it every set period anyway, it's the small business's that this will rape as at the moment they are probably already struggling and don't need to be paying out for new vans. Thank god they haven't implemented this cr@p in Scotland......yet, I hear talk of it being started in Edinburgh though.

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Err... it's getting rid of the highest polluting vehicles in a seriously polluted city. Can't see a problem with it :)

 

My point was that the timing isn't the best. I don't know a great deal about London but I assume that industry and domestic emissions have been afftected in a similar way?

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Makes no sense, yet again this will hit thise who can't afford it. If contractors had the money to upgrade their fleet they probably would be doing it every set period anyway, it's the small business's that this will rape as at the moment they are probably already struggling and don't need to be paying out for new vans. Thank god they haven't implemented this cr@p in Scotland......yet, I hear talk of it being started in Edinburgh though.

 

There aren't actually that many vans that'll be affected, and the ones it does effect are massively polluting.

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My point was that the timing isn't the best. I don't know a great deal about London but I assume that industry and domestic emissions have been afftected in a similar way?

 

Hey, no-one can tell when this financial dip will end - or even if it will - yet society does have an obligation to clean up its act regardless of the economic climate. I don't think that's in dispute.

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Hey, no-one can tell when this financial dip will end - or even if it will - yet society does have an obligation to clean up its act regardless of the economic climate. I don't think that's in dispute.

 

No offence but I dont think society has any obligation whatsoever, if johnny public buys a van in 1999 for £12k who the hell is the govt to tell him that 10-12years later he can't use it wherever he wants. He paid the money for it and now they are forcing him to spend more, if the govt wants to meet targets then offer incentive's not taxes, too much stick and not enough carrot. The govt never asked us did we want this, and if they did only a few green party muppets would volunteer to pay through the nose to reduce their 'carbon footprint'

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No offence but I dont think society has any obligation whatsoever, if johnny public buys a van in 1999 for £12k who the hell is the govt to tell him that 10-12years later he can't use it wherever he wants. He paid the money for it and now they are forcing him to spend more, if the govt wants to meet targets then offer incentive's not taxes, too much stick and not enough carrot. The govt never asked us did we want this, and if they did only a few green party muppets would volunteer to pay through the nose to reduce their 'carbon footprint'

 

Yeah you're right, we should continue to screw the world up until it's past the point of no return, then take off and nuke it from orbit. Good thinking :)

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