Supraman Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Hey guys, Been searching on ebay and im not really sure what kit to buy. Anyone else bought from ebay? If so what kit and was the quality any good ? cheers, Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I've just bought a set of HB3 4300K for the main beam on my car, and I'll let you know how they perform if you like? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120841709139?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_6330wt_1180 £27.99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift_bear Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I got mine from knight racer, great kit! Have used them for both supra's, the lexus and the pick up, Cant fault there service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 What's the deal with HID's these days, wasn't there talk of aftermarket HIDS being an MOT fail soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supraman Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 I've just bought a set of HB3 4300K for the main beam on my car, and I'll let you know how they perform if you like? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120841709139?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_6330wt_1180 £27.99. That would be great mate. cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 What's the deal with HID's these days, wasn't there talk of aftermarket HIDS being an MOT fail soon? I think I can clear this up now. I've just spoken to my local MOT garage, and I read the rules for myself. They state that if the car already has self-levelling and/or headlamp washers, then they must work (if you have HIDs). Ancient cars like ours that don't have self-levelling and/or headlamp washers (UK Supras with headlamp washers will have to make sure they work though) aren't included. In summary, if you have a newer car with self-levelling and/or headlamp washers, then convert it to HIDs, the original factory fitted equipment must work, otherwise it's a failure. I'll be making sure I take my car to this garage for the MOT anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I think I can clear this up now. I've just spoken to my local MOT garage, and I read the rules for myself. They state that if the car already has self-levelling and/or headlamp washers, then they must work (if you have HIDs). Ancient cars like ours that don't have self-levelling and/or headlamp washers (UK Supras with headlamp washers will have to make sure they work though) aren't included. In summary, if you have a newer car with self-levelling and/or headlamp washers, then convert it to HIDs, the original factory fitted equipment must work, otherwise it's a failure. I'll be making sure I take my car to this garage for the MOT anyway! Thanks for clearing that up your explanation makes far more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 It's the same as almost all other MOT rules; must work if fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 So, just to be clear......if we have HID's on a JSpec its NOT an MOT fail, as it doesnt have self levelling or headlamp washars as standard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Officially it's not, but I've heard from at least 2 sources that say their MOT testing friends would fail them, as they've read the regulation changes wrongly. It states in a Matters of Testing magazine that it should fail if the car doesn't have ALL the same things as a car with HIDs as standard, but this is an opinion of the editors, not official word from VOSA. MOT stations should actually be looking to the MOT Inspection Manual for Reasons for Rejection, where it clearly states 'if fitted' or words to that effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraP-Z Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 That ebay jobbie HID kit will be absolutely fine, ive fitted plenty of those exact same ones to cars, and all work perfectly. Just make sure you get the right size bulbs depending on what lights you have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 So, just to be clear......if we have HID's on a JSpec its NOT an MOT fail, as it doesnt have self levelling or headlamp washars as standard? Correctamundo. I have a JSpec, and have also had my existing HIDs adjusted by the very same garage. The MOT tester I asked did the adjustment for me. UK Supras with HIDs have to make sure their headlamp washers work, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Andrew, do you run with high beams as well, or just stick to the HID main beam? For some reason on mine, the previous owner wired the high beams up to the HID (incorrect if i'm right) and they dont work. iirc the high beams should just be as standard still? And by not having high beams, is it an MOT fail? MOT coming up in the next couple of weeks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulley Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 HID's for main beams (like I have) are fine for mot except you need more specialist hids with preheat so when they first turn on they instantly achieve full intensity, some production cars have hid main beams and often run a higher voltage spike during startup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Andrew, do you run with high beams as well, or just stick to the HID main beam? For some reason on mine, the previous owner wired the high beams up to the HID (incorrect if i'm right) and they dont work. iirc the high beams should just be as standard still? And by not having high beams, is it an MOT fail? MOT coming up in the next couple of weeks! HID's for main beams (like I have) are fine for mot except you need more specialist hids with preheat so when they first turn on they instantly achieve full intensity, some production cars have hid main beams and often run a higher voltage spike during startup Oh right, where did you get them from? My car is being MOT's in April, and I want to make sure I've also got the right ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Try these guys, they are in the UK and advise insurance companies on matters like HID's etc, great service and cheap 01524 419988 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Andrew, do you run with high beams as well, or just stick to the HID main beam? For some reason on mine, the previous owner wired the high beams up to the HID (incorrect if i'm right) and they dont work. iirc the high beams should just be as standard still? And by not having high beams, is it an MOT fail? MOT coming up in the next couple of weeks! That's confusing. Sidelight - Dipped beam - Main beam. So dipped beam HIDs, I think when you flash the main beam the dipped beam has to stay on? That's a rule for the MOT I think, or is it that sidelights have to stay on when dipped beams are on? Not sure what the Supra does in that respect. For Main beam as Pulley said you need special HIDs, normal ones take about 4-5 seconds to heat up are no good for main beams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I'm hoping to get some idea of what the 'special' HIDs are, so I can get some ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I'm hoping to get some idea of what the 'special' HIDs are, so I can get some ordered. Pre heated bases so they are instantly on full intensity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Yeah, I understand that, but I was hoping for a link to some on sale somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 That's a good price find I will get a HB3 9005 for my NA with some 6000k.... Is that everything needed for this or is there anything I should get as well as the above???? Yes I know I need a better car before anyone pipes up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Yeah, I understand that, but I was hoping for a link to some on sale somewhere. Did you try calling the number I put ????? There are 2 diff ballasts and the cheap kits have the wrong one, also dont go for 50W kits as they are prone to catch fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 That's a good price find I will get a HB3 9005 for my NA with some 6000k.... Is that everything needed for this or is there anything I should get as well as the above???? Yes I know I need a better car before anyone pipes up! Yes, that is all you need. The HID kit, which is on that Ebay advert, and of course, a TT. Did you try calling the number I put ????? There are 2 diff ballasts and the cheap kits have the wrong one, also dont go for 50W kits as they are prone to catch fire. I haven't called that number yet, and it looks like a company called N Cook Security. Is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) I received the HID kit today, and fitted it at lunchtime. I'll update the thread once I've tested them out this evening, but with the threat of fog again, I may not get the chance! Very easy installation. Took about 20 minutes. Most of that was getting the old bulbs out! Edited March 15, 2012 by AndrewOW (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Oh right, where did you get them from? My car is being MOT's in April, and I want to make sure I've also got the right ones. What is the colour like on your 4300k??? I was always going to go with 5000 but am somewhat wondering if 6000 will be too blue..... Choices choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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