IDO Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Had a bit of a knocking/tapping noise last time I used the car a couple of weeks back, Its due for a mot and service so I didn't use it until today when taking it to the garage. I've dropped it off this morning and the noise was worse.. the garage is going to have a look at it and get back to me, I have a quick look under the lid and couldn't seem to see anything wrong I am thinking it could be the bottom end/crank? anyone had anything like this? Expecting a call from the garage sometime today/tomorrow when they get to have a good look, also expecting them to say they have to have the block out to investigate.. My wallet is worried?!?!? Anyone with previous on this kind of problem.. ta in advance... Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Everyone on here will be just guessing as to what the noise could be, lots more info required or even a video would be good. Is it coming from the engine ? does the noise speed up and slow down as you rev the engine, does the noise only happen when the cars moving etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDO Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Everyone on here will be just guessing as to what the noise could be, lots more info required or even a video would be good. Is it coming from the engine ? does the noise speed up and slow down as you rev the engine, does the noise only happen when the cars moving etc etc Thanks for reply Dnk. Hi, Yeah i know people will just be guessing.. suppose same as the garage until they pull the motor out.. just trying to get a heads up on the bad news.. (starts crying and planning on a begging meeting with the bank!) Cant get a vid at the mo, as car is at the garage and I am in work... Def coming from the engine and would say bottom end (cant get under the bugger to pin point due to body kit) yep speeds up and slows down with rev's even out of gear when static... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 The garage should have a pretty good idea without pulling the engine out, it sounds like its going to be either a mains shell or big end shell is on its way out if its the bottom end. All the best with the bank manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDO Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Thanks Dunk, Thanks kinda what i was thinking but i am not to tec' minded with the inner parts of the motor.. If you know, whats the kind of work involved on sorting a shell? just hope it hasn't affected the crank as well?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 If it is a shell then its got a good chance of there being damage to the crank and that'll be an engine out job im afraid. No oil on a shell can create a lot of heat which scraps the shell and softens the crank journal so it could require a new crank along with a set of shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellstrom Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Might be better of bying a complete engine? If you suspect bearings its going to cost some money. Thats if you cant do most of it your self. Think you would need to line hone the journals aswell if you need a new crank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDO Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Starting to get worried about fixing cost now.. what with a new house and other stuff, going to have to think long and hard about the pennies! If its going to be a lot you may see a "how much is it worth" thread soon... @rse... Had the Supe for over 7 years and not had any problems apart from a clutch cable go.. Don't want to but cost dependent i may have to say good bye... cant think of not having the supra...Not to mention the fun times in it, plus all mods i've saved for and had done over the years.. (from stock na auto to TT 6sp, BPU, suspension, exhaust, kit, wheels..etc, etc) off now to cry in the corner... sob,sob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Starting to get worried about fixing cost now.. what with a new house and other stuff, going to have to think long and hard about the pennies! If its going to be a lot you may see a "how much is it worth" thread soon... @rse... Had the Supe for over 7 years and not had any problems apart from a clutch cable go.. Don't want to but cost dependent i may have to say good bye... cant think of not having the supra...Not to mention the fun times in it, plus all mods i've saved for and had done over the years.. (from stock na auto to TT 6sp, BPU, suspension, exhaust, kit, wheels..etc, etc) off now to cry in the corner... sob,sob Before you get too worried, if it is the bottom end, I'm sure the NA and TT blocks are the same. NA engines are cheap and sometimes even free. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellstrom Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I cant really tell how much the labour is as i dont live in the UK. In sweden a small shop might charge around £50/h and the bigger dubble that. One the other hand the cheaper place might not really have any real knowledge about Supra and the 2jz engine. Sorry if i got you worried, buy imo it would suck to hoist the engine out just to see that its destoryed and the aswell have to pay upfront for a replacement engine aswell. Its not that expressive if you do it your self as iam guessing alot of the money is from labour cost. Its not that hard really and this is a great club with lots of knowledge and information. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellstrom Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 The TT block has different oil pump i think and no oil squirters for the pistons. Dunno about holes for mounting various bits etc is the same But most likely it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Even if it was identical its still a fair old bill to pull it out and just fit a replacement engine 10 hrs labour to remove and fit the engine and thats before you start swapping any parts over etc so theres £500 to start with Wait and see what the garage find first and then take it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 NA blocks need the oil squirter area's spot facing and drilling and tapping. Both oil feeds for the turbos drilling and tapping and the oil drain hogging out in the sump (or you can use your sump). You should be able to swap the oil pump after pulling it apart and checking it for damage and making sure it's still within tolerances. Lyndon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDO Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Thanks for the advice all, will see what the garage has to say. (fingers crossed) Pretty skint at the moment due to the house needing me to bleed money, will get it fixed probably pretty much what ever happens (within reason), even if its to sell on to cover costs. Pitty i dont have the space, time, tools or know-how to do it myself.. Hope its good news from the garage! the bloke is a ex toyota mechanic with a good rep' so i trust him to see me right.. He's the only other person who has worked on it other than paul @ Whifbitz (who is just that bit to far away when i dont want to travel in a car not at 100%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky_waR Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Well I had mine done two months ago and this is what it cost me. Remove and refit engine £750 Remove head and fit new crank and bearings and oil pump £500 Toyota full gasket set £261.24 Toyota Oil Pump £172.08 Clevite Main Bearings £84 Clevite Thrust Washers £40.31 Clevite Big End Bearings £57.00 ARP Rod Bolts £90.00 Second hand Crank £80.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky_waR Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 There was also a knocking noise from the motor.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDO Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Thanks for a rough idea.. off to find the missus's credit card!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Are there no members near you who may have the know how and equipment to give it a go? It seems to me a "I need your help" statement may save you a fair bit of cash if people are willing to lend a hand. You never know.......there are a lot of people on here as you know, with the knowledge and ability to do what needs doing. May be worth asking?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky_waR Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I got the crank of a member for £80.. It doesn't matter if it's an NA or TT, their cranks are the same. The parts itself aren't to expensive but you unfortunately will have to pull the motor which will take about 10 hours of labour... I had a choice of getting a second hand TT motor or to rebuild mine. I went for rebuild so now atleast I know the motor is good.. The problem I saw with getting a second hand motor is that you dont know the condition and it could fail in a month or a year, who knows.. Good luck with your motor mate.. I hope it's something simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Just out of interest where did your tt engine come from and when was it fitted in your na ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDO Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Just out of interest where did your tt engine come from and when was it fitted in your na ? Paul @ whifbitz got the engine and refurb' rebuilt it (with all new bits, inc pumps etc) around 4 years back.. as said been running sweet as a nut until now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Paul @ whifbitz got the engine and refurb' rebuilt it (with all new bits, inc pumps etc) around 4 years back.. as said been running sweet as a nut until now.. Have you done many miles since it was done ? seems strange for a rebuilt 2jz to have issues like this especially as its only a bpu motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDO Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Have you done many miles since it was done ? seems strange for a rebuilt 2jz to have issues like this especially as its only a bpu motor Umm off hand prob' 10K give or take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDO Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Are there no members near you who may have the know how and equipment to give it a go? It seems to me a "I need your help" statement may save you a fair bit of cash if people are willing to lend a hand. You never know.......there are a lot of people on here as you know, with the knowledge and ability to do what needs doing. May be worth asking?????? is a good idea mate, but don't think there is anyone close that could help, plus cant really move the car much from the garage where it is incase i make things worse.. Also wouldn't mind the garage to find out for def what the problem is.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky_waR Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 is a good idea mate, but don't think there is anyone close that could help, plus cant really move the car much from the garage where it is incase i make things worse.. Also wouldn't mind the garage to find out for def what the problem is.. I definitely won’t drive it anywhere until you are sure it's not the big end. Rather be safe than sorry bud, you don’t want to cause more damage.. Let the garage do their analysis first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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