Jellybean Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Other than Motul RBF600 fluid and braided lines my brakes were totally stock UK set up Thats what I am running plus Project Mu front SCR Rotors and New Endless CCX Pads I will do the brake Fluid before I go out, it is about 3 years old now We left the handbrake off in the pits and left the car in gear , I assumed it was to stop the pads sticking to the hot disk, creating a hot spot on the disc with the possibility to cause the disk to wrap I will take her out with ny 19's on ; I do not have the $ to buy another set of wheels; plus it will look crap on circuit with Stock 17 on a TRD car , I am just going out to have a spin not looking to break records. 5/6 laps at a time and back in for a 30-45min rest then out again I dont want to push her too hard, repairs are $$$ If I start getting serious I might get a DC2 Tyre R as a track car Keep the advice coming! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 I was going to run 36psi all round , as the tyres heat up the PSI increases ; should I run 34 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Thats what I am running plus Project Mu front SCR Rotors and New Endless CCX Pads I will do the brake Fluid before I go out, it is about 3 years old now We left the handbrake off in the pits and left the car in gear , I assumed it was to stop the pads sticking to the hot disk, creating a hot spot on the disc with the possibility to cause the disk to wrap I will take her out with ny 19's on ; I do not have the $ to buy another set of wheels; plus it will look crap on circuit with Stock 17 on a TRD car , I am just going out to have a spin not looking to break records. 5/6 laps at a time and back in for a 30-45min rest then out again I dont want to push her too hard, repairs are $$$ If I start getting serious I might get a DC2 Tyre R as a track car Keep the advice coming! Thanks Like i said the handbrake doesn't operate the pads in the caliper on a mkiv, its an internal drum machined into the brake disc and uses 2 brake shoes. It is best to leave the handbrake off though but not to keep the pads off the discs but to keep the handbrake shoes off the drum inside the disc I ran 5 or so laps then 30 mins off which worked for me Edited March 1, 2012 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Like i said the handbrake doesn't operate the pads in the caliper on a mkiv, its an internal drum machined into the brake disc and uses 2 brake shoes. It is best to leave the handbrake off though but not to keep the pads off the discs but to keep the handbrake shoes off the drum inside the disc I ran 5 or so laps then 30 mins off which worked for me Thanks Dunk , I am just a little confused ; the pads I put on the rear where pads and not shoes , the caliper is a smaller version of the front; just confused how it is a Drum I was going to get a Chris Willson Refurb Caliper kit with all Stainless steel components where available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 If I start getting serious I might get a DC2 Tyre R as a track car On a track car front tyres are for steering. Rear tyres are for driving AND steering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 On a track car front tyres are for steering. Rear tyres are for driving AND steering. Cheap and Cheeerful! I was out in Ians R33 GTR , I think it is fairly Stock , might have aftermarket suspension etc but power is Stock I hope anyway It was great on the straight, very twitchy on corner entry and exit; off balance especially on exit. Coming out of Honda into Stena Line , she was fine then all of a sudden she wanted to dart right into the barrier ; not too sure if it is the HICAS Four wheel steering on them but you had to be on the ball. I wasnt even pushing her , you would end up in a barrier ; very unpredictable I was very surprised for a 4WD car and considering they say GTR's handle like they are on rails , made me wonder will the Supra be a nightmare on track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) This is the same as the mkiv even though its a diagram of a lexus. I've arrowed the handbrake shoes, these work inside the discs, the disc has a turned bore inside it where i've arrowed to The handbrake and brake caliper are not linked and work totally seperately to each other. Edited March 1, 2012 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 This is the same as the mkiv even though its a diagram of a lexus. I've arrowed the handbrake shoes, these work inside the discs, the disc has a turned bore inside it where i've arrowed to The handbrake and brake caliper are not linked and work totally seperately to each other. Got you thanks , I always taught the Hub on the rear was on the large side, Now I know why! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Cheap and Cheeerful! I was out in Ians R33 GTR , I think it is fairly Stock , might have aftermarket suspension etc but power is Stock I hope anyway It was great on the straight, very twitchy on corner entry and exit; off balance especially on exit. Coming out of Honda into Stena Line , she was fine then all of a sudden she wanted to dart right into the barrier ; not too sure if it is the HICAS Four wheel steering on them but you had to be on the ball. I wasnt even pushing her , you would end up in a barrier ; very unpredictable I was very surprised for a 4WD car and considering they say GTR's handle like they are on rails , made me wonder will the Supra be a nightmare on track Absolutely not! Even mine, which I'd like to describe as a reasonably well sorted Supra (even though it isn't really!) is an absolute hoot to drive on a circuit. There are few other cars, short of exotica, I would even want to track. You've surely seen Simon and James (the Nums) and Wez going hammer and tongs at various track days, I single out these three gents because their videos show what can be achieved in a stock(ish) chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 This is the same as the mkiv even though its a diagram of a lexus. I've arrowed the handbrake shoes, these work inside the discs, the disc has a turned bore inside it where i've arrowed to The handbrake and brake caliper are not linked and work totally seperately to each other. Ah, now I get it. So the Supra has drum brakes on the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Absolutely not! Even mine, which I'd like to describe as a reasonably well sorted Supra (even though it isn't really!) is an absolute hoot to drive on a circuit. There are few other cars, short of exotica, I would even want to track. You've surely seen Simon and James (the Nums) and Wez going hammer and tongs at various track days, I single out these three gents because their videos show what can be achieved in a stock(ish) chassis. Yeah seen a few vids of the guys on here, Will take mine out and see how she goes, the R33 is a good marker for comparison! Only issue with mine I can see is the heavy Clutch pedal! RB for show, JZ for Go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Yeah seen a few vids of the guys on here, Will take mine out and see how she goes, the R33 is a good marker for comparison! Only issue with mine I can see is the heavy Clutch pedal! RB for show, JZ for Go! Go for it, you won't regret it. Unless you bin it! Now that'd be tragic. Watch out for people like me. I won't hesitate to put you in the wall if it means winning the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Go for it, you won't regret it. Unless you bin it! Now that'd be tragic. Watch out for people like me. I won't hesitate to put you in the wall if it means winning the race. The Tom Crusie of Mondello! I will pm you next time we are out on track, nice to have two Supra's going around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Ah, now I get it. So the Supra has drum brakes on the rear. For the handbrake yes, the rear discs have a drum handbrake and a caliper footbrake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 For the handbrake yes, the rear discs have a drum handbrake and a caliper footbrake Ever heard of a wind-up? I even added this guy => I guess I'll go back to tinkering with my V6 Supra and leave this section to the grown ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 The Tom Crusie of Mondello! I will pm you next time we are out on track, nice to have two Supra's going around It surely would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Ever heard of a wind-up? I even added this guy => I guess I'll go back to tinkering with my V6 Supra and leave this section to the grown ups. Let me know when you find the Pollen Filter I am still looking for mine, I think its behind the Heater Matrix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Jellybean you fool, it's not pollen filter, it's poly filler! And yes, I found tons of the stuff behind my dash. Honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Jellybean you fool, it's not pollen filter, it's poly filler! And yes, I found tons of the stuff behind my dash. Honest. What is to be done with this Jellybean ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexM Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 You want to track a Supra? Don't be silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajinder Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Thanks Dunk , I am just a little confused ; the pads I put on the rear where pads and not shoes , the caliper is a smaller version of the front; just confused This should make it clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 This should make it clear. Dunks Diagram did it but nice to see it in reality! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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