RB-GTE Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) One of my Supra friends which has a drift car has TT brakes. I just purchased a 1997 RZ-S which has the small n/a brakes. I was telling him how I wanted to get the TT brakes, and made a deal with him to swap ours. He just asked for brand new rotors and pads.... but this is still good deal for me. NA brakes going on > TT TT brakes going on > NA So. What is required to make this swap work? can both setups be swapped right over? I know that the NA dust guard will need to be bent or removed... but besides that anything else? Edited February 15, 2012 by RB-GTE (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 One of my Supra friends which has a drift car has TT brakes. I just purchased a 1997 RZ-S which has the small n/a brakes. I was telling him how I wanted to get the TT brakes, and made a deal with him to swap ours. He just asked for brand new Calipers and pads.... but this is still good deal for me. NA brakes going on > TT TT brakes going on > NA So. What is required to make this swap work? can both setups be swapped right over? I know that the NA dust guard will need to be bent or removed... but besides that anything else? appart from the dust shields, straight swap of everything, calliper, disks etc.. - while you at it may as well change the brake fluid.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Which TT brakes are they? J spec TTs have the 'smaller' 2 piston calipers as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lude Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 i didnt think there were differences in NA & TT brakes? i thaught there were J speck & UK spec? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I was telling him how I wanted to get the TT brakes, and made a deal with him to swap ours. He just asked for brand new Calipers and pads.... but this is still good deal for me. You sure about that? Checked costs of new 1/2 pot calipers and the cost of sourcing some 2/4 pots used? I bet you'll be saving £10-20 ballpark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 i didnt think there were differences in NA & TT brakes? i thaught there were J speck & UK spec? People should think of them as the smaller or larger set of brakes - the 1/2 pots came on NA and TT JDM, the 2/4 pot came as *standard* on UK and optional on N/A and TT JDM, some later models from Japan had them finally as standard (I believe). Ditto with LSD - my '94 NA had an LSD - there are many optional extras and you can find this in the model guide FAQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Yep, I think a lot of people get confused & assume the larger brakes were UK only. OP - If you aren't sure what brakes they are then post a couple of pictures & we will be able to identify them for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lude Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 i did actually know that, however everyone seems to refer to them as UK or J Spec on here so easier to say it that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB-GTE Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) No both cars are JDM spec One is RZ with the big 4/2 pot brakes while my RZ-S came with the smaller 2/1 pot brakes (the 4/2 pot brakes were a factory JDM option for RZ-S, if they weren't selected the car would simply come with smaller n/a brakes). I made a deal with him to swap over, he said he doesn't need the braking power for drifting. Edited February 15, 2012 by RB-GTE (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB-GTE Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) You sure about that? Checked costs of new 1/2 pot calipers and the cost of sourcing some 2/4 pots used? I bet you'll be saving £10-20 ballpark! Sorry. I meant to say rotors. We would be trading rotors/calipers. The only thing it will cost me is getting new new N/A rotors/pads. for mine I may as well get some new rotors as well, since the TT brakes have 115,000 KMs on them. Edited February 15, 2012 by RB-GTE (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I'd have good look at the outer seals before you fit them and it would pay you to change them for new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 No both cars are JDM spec One is RZ with the big 4/2 pot brakes while my RZ-S came with the smaller 2/1 pot brakes (the 4/2 pot brakes were a factory JDM option for RZ-S, if they weren't selected the car would simply come with smaller n/a brakes). I made a deal with him to swap over, he said he doesn't need the braking power for drifting. They aren't N/A brakes, they are standard Jspec brakes. The 4/2 pots were standard on later RZ cars and an optional upgrade througout the rest of the range including N/As. The 1/2pots weren't "N/A" brakes as you keep referring to them, they were the standard setup across most of the range. Not trying to confuse you but this has already been pointed out to you yet you keep going back to this wrong reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Scott is right, you don't get NA brakes. I think there has been so many references to UK brakes the term NA brakes has started to get around as the smaller specification brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I suppose you could apply the term N/A brakes to the jap spec's, as in not applicable. But on a serious note, I was pricing some up at a Toyota main dealer yesterday and they are indeed J-Spec or UK. Even as far as Toyota are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I suppose you could apply the term N/A brakes to the jap spec's, as in not applicable. But on a serious note, I was pricing some up at a Toyota main dealer yesterday and they are indeed J-Spec or UK. Even as far as Toyota are concerned. That's only because you are speaking to a UK dealer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I suppose you could apply the term N/A brakes to the jap spec's, as in not applicable. But on a serious note, I was pricing some up at a Toyota main dealer yesterday and they are indeed J-Spec or UK. Even as far as Toyota are concerned. IIRC I bought my UK calipers (just the calipers) brand new from Toyota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 IIRC I bought my UK calipers (just the calipers) brand new from Toyota Strangely enough buying them from brakeparts.co.uk (refurbished) works out £350 lol. I think they come with stainless pistons though. Remember that 2nd hand sets come with pads and discs to warrant their value. £300 per axle is about the going rate, but when you consider discs and pads are an extra £200 on top of the £320 for the calipers it isn't hard to see why 2nd hand ones still go for that kind of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Remember that 2nd hand sets come with pads and discs to warrant their value. £300 per axle is about the going rate, but when you consider discs and pads are an extra £200 on top of the £320 for the calipers it isn't hard to see why 2nd hand ones still go for that kind of money. TBH I'd rather buy new caliper wise though, as otherwise you should/may budget for a seal refurb, if something's got behind the seal it's a piston refurb and before you knew it your cost saving delta has gone down even more and the time you then put into those activities the hourly rate of effort put in vs £ saved is... as RD would put it 'sub-optimal' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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