Kazuma Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Hey guys. I realise this might be a bit of a stupid question, but just wondered for those that have taken the plunge, how much did the conversion cost? this would including fitting. For an example i'm going off a stock N/A and going for 400bhp mark. Who would you recommend speaking to from your experience? Been reading up on people's project work and checking out other topics but not really found an average price. I assume it's best to speak to someone about it.. My budget would be 4-5k, but i don't know if that's not enough or average, or in fact a decent amount and would get a half decent setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 If you do a search this very thing was asked just a couple of days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 You should speak to paul from garage whifbitz. He has developed a NA-T kit himself and can also fit the kit in his garage! Did some business with him, has always been a pleasure. regards, herbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Gaz Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 For 5k I would go to Keron, get a tt engine put in and bpu it. If you are adament on keeping your car, otherwise go buy a tt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOSTA Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 It depends how you go about it mate! mine cost around 2.5k but myself and friends done the work ourselfs. With that I got a budget T-61 turbo and manifold and the rest was branded items. If you run 9psi on stock block it will be very close to 400bhp if not it could hit the 400bhp. Alot of guys running NA-T normally hit around 375bhp @7psi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuma Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 hmmm, ok guys thanks for the replies. i'll give Paul a holla and see about prices, I have a mate that should be able to do the fitting (though i'll have to confirm first!). Just to confirm Fosta, if I wanted to say go for 450bhp, I'd need a different engine, preferably a TT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOSTA Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 No you won't need a new engine mate although alot of people will recommend going for a TT. @ 450bhp I would recommend changing the gear box as I'm not a 100% sure if it will be ok with that power ( if it was me I would just see how the gearbox copes) then if it brakes change it for a 6 speed. I'm not sure if you can make 450bhp on stock compression so I would fit a TT headgasket (if you really want to make good safe power I would also fit TT pistons while your doing the gasket). You would also need to upgrade the fuel pump and injectors I would of thought. You can make 400bhp on stock block and compression! So if you changed the head gasket, pistons , gear box , fuel system I woldnt go for 450bhp I would try for around 500-550bhp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuma Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 OK thanks for clearing that up. I'd think 400 would be fine for now tbh. Did you upgrade your brakes? Mine are the standard jspec discs and calipers. I've sent Paul a PM so will see what he comes back with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Assuming it's a stock NA Supra here's a rough list of the parts you'll need. Quality NA-T kit eg. the Whifbitz kit £3,658.74 (forget any cheap Ebay rubbish) Plus: Cat back exhaust Fuel injectors Fuel pump Fuel filter Distributor cap/rotor arm/HT leads Spark plugs Oil Oil filter Gearbox? Clutch? Oil cooler Boost gauge AFR gauge Boost controller? Radiator - condition? Intake pipe Airfilter BOV/boss/welding Various gaskets and fittings Labour Mapping/dyno time If you want a reliable car at the end of it then my advice would be not to cut any corners, use only quality parts, use a reputable tuner and don't have a tight budget, you will blow it in my experience Plus worth considering insurance increase with declared modifications and resale value - you will find it difficult/impossible to sell on. Edited February 6, 2012 by Nic (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuma Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Blimey so there are a lot of other things I need to factor in. OK that's good to know..might best to make a shopping list and tot it up to get a realistic price. --- I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=51.800693,-0.805739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Cheap mechanical bits will save you agro. A weld on a cracked manifold (if it cracks) won't break the bank. Buy NEW electronics. It's a PAIN if something doesnt work right. typically most mechanical bits are an easy fix. A faulty ECU, boost controller is NOT what you want. Don't go second hand unless its 110% trusted. Unless you peice it together bit at a time, it's probably easier going TT. Plus when you want to expand you have LOADS of cheaper parts as TT modification is more common (in relation to intake manifolds, fuel rails, most other stuff is the same). I'm picking up another engine this week to start building it from scratch, it will cost me more money for less power by the time i'm finished. Plus one big issue... TRANSMISSION! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Blimey so there are a lot of other things I need to factor in. OK that's good to know..might best to make a shopping list and tot it up to get a realistic price. Also have a look at the cost of a TT these days, probably not much in it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOSTA Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) OK thanks for clearing that up. I'd think 400 would be fine for now tbh. Did you upgrade your brakes? Mine are the standard jspec discs and calipers. I've sent Paul a PM so will see what he comes back with... No my brakes are the standard jspec mate they work fine I noticed that Someone mentioned about resale on a NA-t. I built mine so if I want to sell on I can just unplug everything so it's back to NA for example I bought a harness adaptor so I cut into that for the EMU wires so it's just plug and play and non of the factory wires have been cut and the turbo just bolts off and I can just bolt my NA manifold and airbox and it's back to NA and then I can sell the kit in full or keep for another NA-t project Edited February 6, 2012 by FOSTA (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOSTA Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 http://forum.clubna-t.com/showthread.php?t=11104 There's the link to my NA-t build mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuma Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 That's a good idea (the idea of a kit that can be taken off so you can sell), unfortunately or fortunately, im not likely to sell any time soon. I'll take a look at your project. For some reason the link is dead on my iPhone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey001 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 http://forum.clubna-t.com/showthread.php?t=11104 There's the link to my NA-t build mate Good Build mate. Well done! I also struggled drilling the oil pan on mine! I had to walk away a few time and come back to it. Nightmare!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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