Jarek Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Hi I've got some money to invest ,an I'm interested do you guys and girls on here have any experience in this game? Thanks Jarek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 It's what I do as a job, unfortunately not in the trading side of it. Are you looking for the best companies to invest in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeG Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 You can invest in my business if you want, its a business where I buy highly expensive parts and put them in my supra, expect to see zero returns on your investment but I will let you come watch me drive my supra from time to time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzki Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 If you have money to invest just buy some land while its still undervalued, they aren't making anymore.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnanshah247 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 stay clear of stocks and shares at the moment. £3000 will vanish within two minutes. you need to go to http://www.babypips.com and learn the art of trading. in the current volatility thanks to euro zone debt crisis its very very risky, markets move ridiculously and you need a great deal of patience and control! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 How much do you have to invest, I could introduce you to our private Wealth management if it substantial ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 My money goes into property - then rent out, ding-dang-do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozz Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 It depends what you want really and how adverse you are to risk. My shares portfolio is 20% up atm and I've never make that with money in the bank. Just 'gamble' what you are prepared to lose. I buy into banks, I'm 40-50% up on LLOY, BARC, RBS and they should climb further. Aviva is another interesting one, I'm 30% up in only 2months. I trade through HL.co.uk. If you do, make sure you trade wherever possible in an ISA, you can buy 10.6k shares a year and the profits are all tax free - awesome for higher tax payers. Base metals industries are also worth a look - Vale, BHP Billiton, Rio Tinto (i work for one of them). Its believe these are currently undervalued and China is really driving demand up. Of course, any investments you make from this advice are at your own risk, these may all go out of business tomorrow but they tend to be the safer of the moving shares. I also like to invest smaller amount in a more speculative portfolio - exploration companies, energy companies, small value. I've lost heavily on some (90% on one!!) but it only takes one to hit big and pay for the rest. Also consider how you are investing - day trading (mucho time/research), 6 month, 1 year, or 5 year etc as it will influence who you invest in. Hope that helps! I'm a complete amatuer but enjoy trading for fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnanshah247 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 if you trade essentially you will be spread betting, betting short term amounts against market trends. theres plenty of spread betting websites but to be honest yes its gambling but compared to say an online casino you have a better chance of not being raped by the house. thing is though, you get too emotionally attached. u loose £200 and u get vex so you start doubling your points, from £2 a point move to gradually £20 a point move until market does a silly spike and in 3 seconds your £500 short. you need to have over the top discipline, set targets and not let your heart rule your mind. properties is the best place to plug your money, atleast your not guess working and that you have real brick and mortar that you can touch and feel, your money isnt hovering in air. if funds arent that high, buy and sell cars, plenty of tasty motors out there that you can make a good honest £ on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnanshah247 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 My money goes into property - then rent out, ding-dang-do the most sensible way.........! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 adnan is the king at gambling me and him hit the casinos once and we came away very happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo2810 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Bud, if you do decide the market is the route you want to take, spend a few weeks doing tons of research and planning your investments. As the guys are saying, if you know what you're doing, and with a little luck, there's lots to be made. However, on the flip side, if you hit some bad luck, or don't do enough research, there's lots to lose. Many dabblers will stack most of their fund on long term investments, pop on a few mid term, and then use a small portion of their capital on short term. The short term will be the most volitile but can spike either way, although you have to watch the trends all the time. My advice, unless you're willing to invest lots of time to learning the market, go for something safer like an ISA or property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnanshah247 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 adnan is the king at gambling me and him hit the casinos once and we came away very happy no dude, i dont gamble, i just took a punt and put the money i made towards charity, its against my religion, shouldnt have done it in the first place we only went casino because u was bored!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnanshah247 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 bud any form of gambling or get rich quick scheme will see you eating grool. best to stick to the safe investments, put it all in a savings account and earn intrest? the reason why i know about trading and spread betting is because i used to work for a trading company on the I.T. side of things, i used to watch the traders there pull their hair out, they used to however place titanic trades, daily losses and earning of around quarter of a million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige-rz Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I do a lot of spreadbetting. Most nights in fact I bet on various indices in Asia. Highly volatile with big movements, but you can be handsomely rewarded for the risk. I've often doubled my monthly salary with spreadbetting, and my Day job is as a solicitor. You can loose obscene amounts of money, and I have, but there is great benefits. Also with spreadbetting it allows you initially to play the stock market with relatively little initial capital required (1500-2000 for Asian indicies mainly) Feel free to pm me if I can help at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozz Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I do a lot of spreadbetting. Most nights in fact I bet on various indices in Asia. Highly volatile with big movements, but you can be handsomely rewarded for the risk. I've often doubled my monthly salary with spreadbetting, and my Day job is as a solicitor. You can loose obscene amounts of money, and I have, but there is great benefits. Also with spreadbetting it allows you initially to play the stock market with relatively little initial capital required (1500-2000 for Asian indicies mainly) Feel free to pm me if I can help at all. Thats the point I was going to make, spreadbetting is not something I would recommend to anyone as a starting point as unlike share trading you can lose more than you put in. can be fun, can be stressful, I lost a few K doing it and stick to share trading now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige-rz Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Thats the point I was going to make, spreadbetting is not something I would recommend to anyone as a starting point as unlike share trading you can lose more than you put in. can be fun, can be stressful, I lost a few K doing it and stick to share trading now. I'd agree with most of that. Theres only one sure fire way of loosing money quicker and that's by owning a supra Most trading platforms now sets an automatic stop loss so you only loose the funds available in your account so you don't end up owing money, should it all go pear shaped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarek Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 For a start I've opened -alliance trust trading account.and put 2k into it. ATM i don't know anything about trading but i read a lot, and more i read then more I'm interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I'm glad some of you guys are doing well, my portfolio is looking decidedly poor at the moment seems a bit unfair that my banker gets to keep his bonus when his recommendations have cost me significantly. I know that's just the way of things, and I knew the risks before I started. I wish I'd gone it alone now, I was going to put my money into gold, as a friend did at a similar time, and he's earned alot from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige-rz Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I'm glad some of you guys are doing well, my portfolio is looking decidedly poor at the moment seems a bit unfair that my banker gets to keep his bonus when his recommendations have cost me significantly. I know that's just the way of things, and I knew the risks before I started. I wish I'd gone it alone now, I was going to put my money into gold, as a friend did at a similar time, and he's earned alot from it. It's all cyclical mate. I lost so much about 2 years ago I swore I'd never touch it again. I couldn't even look at it for around 9 months. You'll get involved in something profitable again hopefully. On a side note I wouldn't pay too much attention to your bankers recommendations. They often have ulterior motives for recommending certain equities. Stick with your gut, I always try to and for the majority, it will hopefully work out in your favour. Out of interest Jarek, what sort of returns are you looking to make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarek Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Returns?? Don't know really. Anything on the plus side it's fine. In reality, in the current market if I would invest in a stable company, what I could get out of 20k.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige-rz Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Returns?? Don't know really. Anything on the plus side it's fine. In reality, in the current market if I would invest in a stable company, what I could get out of 20k.? It's an impossible question to answer mate. It's like asking how long is a piece of string. When researching what you're interested in buying have clear exit strategies worked out. Decide before you buy what price you will sell at. Takes emotions out of the equation, as you have no idea how greedy you will get and try to get every penny of profit out of a trade, which often makes you hold a position too long. My advice is simple as this, if you can honestly say that you can afford to loose the entire 20k, then dabble with the entire sum in the stock Market. If it means too much to you then don't. I personally work off a 30% return, as a goal. It's a goal and I often don't meet it, hell, some months you'll do well to break even. Remember my figures are based on spreadbetting, which has higher returns than buying shares, but also carries MUCH greater risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 It's an impossible question to answer mate. It's like asking how long is a piece of string. When researching what you're interested in buying have clear exit strategies worked out. Decide before you buy what price you will sell at. Takes emotions out of the equation, as you have no idea how greedy you will get and try to get every penny of profit out of a trade, which often makes you hold a position too long. My advice is simple as this, if you can honestly say that you can afford to loose the entire 20k, then dabble with the entire sum in the stock Market. If it means too much to you then don't. I personally work off a 30% return, as a goal. It's a goal and I often don't meet it, hell, some months you'll do well to break even. Remember my figures are based on spreadbetting, which has higher returns than buying shares, but also carries MUCH greater risk. Some pretty good stuff there, but for those unaware with Sharetrading in the sense of spread betting is gambling, and as said carries a greater risk. IMO investing in tangible assets is the safest thing to do at the moment, service based PLCs are very volatile at the moment, and will be for the forseeable future. So property, precious metals etc will probably see steady but reliable, gains. However, certain trains of thought (including my own, on occasion) think that the Chinese economy is a particularly precarious house of cards, and if it comes down, the markets will be flooded with all the natural resources they've been accumulating for 10 years. Make sure you're using your £5k+ tax free allowance too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarek Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Thanks guys. There are some interesting opinions in here.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I dabble a bit (only small amounts of money, nothing that would make or break me). I must admit my track record isn't good. Currently, I don't know what's holding up the RBS share price. It all seems like bad news for that company but the recent performance is defying gravity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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