CJ Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 That a new engine model CJ? I get easily confused and, in my defence, I have a head cold and have only just woke up:d Think outside the box though CJ. You would then be left with a GTE engined N/A which won't be worth a whole lot given the price of genuine tubbys. Not a lot of V6s on the roads I agree completely my friend. The only drawback for me is the cost element. I will probably have a better picture after speaking to the chaps at Woodsport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I get easily confused and, in my defence, I have a head cold and have only just woke up:d I agree completely my friend. The only drawback for me is the cost element. I will probably have a better picture after speaking to the chaps at Woodsport I think you may be plesantly surprised on the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 I think you may be plesantly surprised on the cost. I doubt it. My grandmother was from Dumfries and her "carefullness" has passed onto me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Here's my daily driver. Wonder how many tickets you've had for no front plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Mother of God that MR2 is an atrocity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Mother of God that MR2 is an atrocity Care to enlighten us mere mortals who don't have the power of psychic reading as to which one you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 ...The only drawback for me is the cost element. I will probably have a better picture after speaking to the chaps at Woodsport The "drive in, drive out" prices are on their web site. I found this DIY thread (in South Wales as it happens) on Pistonheads when my brother (also in S. Wales ) was considering doing his Mk1. I guess there are more on TwoBrutal, but never got around to signing up because he decided he had too much to do already, starting with restoring the Mini that's been on his drive for 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 The "drive in, drive out" prices are on their web site. I noticed that and in the great scheme of things they seem reasonable however, the power output looks to be the same as a turbo fitted mr2 albeit with a more "torquey" element to it. I'm not sure how "tunable" the v6 option is after fitting? I'm guessing fitting a turbo lump would give you many more options for tuning later on down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Before you know it you will have spent enough to but a supra !!!! I have a TT £4500 might buy, its BPU and goes like stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I noticed that and in the great scheme of things they seem reasonable however, the power output looks to be the same as a turbo fitted mr2 albeit with a more "torquey" element to it. I'm not sure how "tunable" the v6 option is after fitting? I'm guessing fitting a turbo lump would give you many more options for tuning later on down the line.That's exactly how it looked to us, but as Carl's car is a Mk1 the V6 would be more than enough to be dangerous. There was apparently a TRD supercharger kit for the 3VZ, but you'd have to find a used one in the US. Woodsport sell an engine mount for DIY, you can use the N/A gearbox and a modified turbo flywheel, then all you need is a 3-litre Camry, a soldering iron, and someone to weld an exhaust together. Actually, if that PH thread is to be believed, it does look fairly simple, and they reckoned they did it for 500 quid net. That definitely piqued my brother's interest, because the 4AGE must be worth a bit these days (and he knows a few rally boys from up the valleys). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 No price mentioned for the 3.5v6 which would be the one to go for. 325hp and nearly as much torque would be the wasps ankles in an MR2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Before you know it you will have spent enough to but a supra !!!! I have a TT £4500 might buy, its BPU and goes like stink. Part ex and HP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 That's exactly how it looked to us, but as Carl's car is a Mk1 the V6 would be more than enough to be dangerous. There was apparently a TRD supercharger kit for the 3VZ, but you'd have to find a used one in the US. Woodsport sell an engine mount for DIY, you can use the N/A gearbox and a modified turbo flywheel, then all you need is a 3-litre Camry, a soldering iron, and someone to weld an exhaust together. Actually, if that PH thread is to be believed, it does look fairly simple, and they reckoned they did it for 500 quid net. That definitely piqued my brother's interest, because the 4AGE must be worth a bit these days (and he knows a few rally boys from up the valleys). That's very interesting. I'm out and about at the min but will send you a pm later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 No price mentioned for the 3.5v6 which would be the one to go for. 325hp and nearly as much torque would be the wasps ankles in an MR2. As you say, that would be the dogs but the lack of price frightens me. As the old adage goes, if you have to ask the price you probably can't afford it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Care to enlighten us mere mortals who don't have the power of psychic reading as to which one you mean? The one on the first page with the failside bumper or as the local youths call them (vadar kit) Anyway back onto subject if you are after around 300bhp from an mr2 fitted with a v6 you are going to spend a fortune your choices would be the camry 3.0 v6 (220bhp) fitted with a supercharger this will roughly gain you between 250bhp-300bhp give or take a few hp depending on setups and map. option 2 would be the expensive route of staying N/A but with the newer 2GR v6 which will pump out around (280bhp-320bhp) but for this transplant you will be looking at near double figures bare in mind this engine is as far as im aware usually left N/A people dont bother with forced induction as stated earlier the engine comes with 280bhp but woodsport fit a few fancy bits ie: fancy headers, lightened flywheel etc which give you around 300bhp-320bhp so im told. option 3 is woodsport have a nice audi v8 that will give you the power output you want with a rather fruity exhaust note out of the box but you will be shelling out serious cash for one of these. I owned a woodsport V6 converted MK2 MR2 220bhp version the car became a silky smooth torque machine however after a week or so the novelty wears off and you will want more power than the unit can offer I went from a rev 2 turbo to the v6 and I would still say the rev 2 turbo was a better car but that is clearly down to preference I now own a Rev3 Turbo MK2 MR2 and a N/A supra best of both worlds the supra for silky smooth 6 cylinder every day driving and the Rev3 Turbo for out and out power. Ofcourse there is one other option that I can think of and thats the route mr Jonny G took with a turbocharged V6 I cant remember the details but the car showed great potential. Conclusion.... if you are looking for around 300bhp give or take a few bhp, going off personal experience you will be better off sticking with a rev 3 turbo unit (3sgte) they offer simple tuning a huge stock of aftermarket parts plus its been done to death so advice is easy to find and the main point they are cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 No price mentioned for the 3.5v6 which would be the one to go for. 325hp and nearly as much torque would be the wasps ankles in an MR2. I saw a post somewhere (perhaps the "public" area of TwoBrutal), about trying to find a 2GR in the UK, that said he'd been quoted up to £8,000. I think it only comes with a Lexus badge over here, so they probably attract luxury car tax. I don't understand why, though, unless there's demand from kit car builders or something, because it's unlikely that anyone ever needs a replacement (unless Mr T's standards have plummeted recently). I think there is also a 2GR build in the Readers' Cars section on PistonHeads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 As you say, that would be the dogs but the lack of price frightens me. As the old adage goes, if you have to ask the price you probably can't afford it This would be the 2GR woodsport fits these but they are close to double figures as I have stated in my above post however they are Brutal engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I saw a post somewhere (perhaps the "public" area of TwoBrutal), about trying to find a 2GR in the UK, that said he'd been quoted up to £8,000. I think it only comes with a Lexus badge over here, so they probably attract luxury car tax. I don't understand why, though, unless there's demand from kit car builders or something, because it's unlikely that anyone ever needs a replacement (unless Mr T's standards have plummeted recently). I think there is also a 2GR build in the Readers' Cars section on PistonHeads. Yes that price is roughly Correct woodsport imported a container of 2GR engines and Paul woods mentioned the cost of importing the units and fitting them is only really for the true MR2 enthusiast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 That's exactly how it looked to us, but as Carl's car is a Mk1 the V6 would be more than enough to be dangerous. There was apparently a TRD supercharger kit for the 3VZ, but you'd have to find a used one in the US. Woodsport sell an engine mount for DIY, you can use the N/A gearbox and a modified turbo flywheel, then all you need is a 3-litre Camry, a soldering iron, and someone to weld an exhaust together. Actually, if that PH thread is to be believed, it does look fairly simple, and they reckoned they did it for 500 quid net. That definitely piqued my brother's interest, because the 4AGE must be worth a bit these days (and he knows a few rally boys from up the valleys). That's very interesting. I'm out and about at the min but will send you a pm later.He never got very far with the idea - like I said, he already has a small scrap yard on his drive - but the idea was to sell the MR2 engine to offset the cost of the Camry. I think he works with someone who had a 4AGE in an Escort. The V6 possibly makes more sense for the MK1, I guess, since V6 or turbo it's still a conversion. For a Mk2 it does seem that it would be a lot easier to just buy a turbo car and avoid the risk of a stalled project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 The V6 possibly makes more sense for the MK1, I guess, since V6 or turbo it's still a conversion. For a Mk2 it does seem that it would be a lot easier to just buy a turbo car and avoid the risk of a stalled project. True Enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Conclusion.... if you are looking for around 300bhp give or take a few bhp, going off personal experience you will be better off sticking with a rev 3 turbo unit (3sgte) they offer simple tuning a huge stock of aftermarket parts plus its been done to death so advice is easy to find and the main point they are cheap. Thank you very much for that - very interesting indeed. Like you, I am erring towards the MK2 turbo route as A. I think it is the cheaper option and B. As you say, it gives me far easier access to the power I am looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Mr2s are a specialty of mine anything you get stuck on drop me a pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Mr2s are a specialty of mine anything you get stuck on drop me a pm You may regret that offer when I have inundated you with questions galore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Haha Thats the glory of the 3sgte there is pretty much an answer for everything already so my replys to you will at least be quick and accurate unlike my punctuation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Haha Thats the glory of the 3sgte there is pretty much an answer for everything already so my replys to you will at least be quick and accurate unlike my punctuation You've got to love this forum eh? Even though the post is all about the mr2, there is still a vast amount of knowledge and help available. Big thanks to you all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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