Guest INSANE Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Hey all, im questioning myself where there is worth my wile invest little money in non turbo automatic supra and then later carry on with full motor rebuild and convert it to turbo, plus make it manual, or just save some more funds, find one that is factory manual and probably turbo too at the first place? Any advices comprehensive or not are sincerely appreciated guys! I think I can find non turbo nice auto for around 2000-4000 eur mark, and turbos or manual's are out of my budget as of yet... since its a project / summer car to be, Im wondering doing some things to it like listed above but if yous can guide me the right path so I dont have to splash-out where I mustn't to, I would be more than happy if I can get all such info's! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Best advice? Buy a turbo manual in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neo9918 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 As above, you'll save yourself cash in the long run if you get a manual turbo in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzki Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 As Above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Buying an auto NA and converting it to a manual twin turbo is fine if you'd enjoy doing the work at least as much as having the finished article. If that's not the case, keep saving so you can buy what you really want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Save up and buy the car you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_bus. Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I'm selling my n/a manual next month having new clutch fitted on Monday and will have a new mot,check my garage pics lovely car!! 3k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Best advice? Buy a turbo manual in the first place Definitely. Over the years the forum has been littered with people in your position who made the mistake of buying an NA and then regretting it later. And that goes for NA manuals too as usually they have completely different gearbox so no benefit there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest INSANE Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Im really concerned now if I want to go trough all the hassle ... even tho I want to build some serious motor out of it, but it may just reinventing a cycle doing it now from N/A Auto to Turbo MT... Thanks for your opinions... now im on the hunt for clean stock TURBO MT MK4 Its bit out of topic, but how much I would want to pay for unmolested clean MK4 MT Turbo ? Any opinions? Were there any major changes in cross-models like prefacelifts/facelifts referring to year of manufacture.. like strength of chassis or suspension regarding this looking in to the year? Thanks Edited January 17, 2012 by INSANE (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPG Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Im really concerned now if I want to go trough all the hassle ... even tho I want to build some serious motor out of it, but it may just reinventing a cycle doing it now from N/A Auto to Turbo MT... Thanks for your opinions... now im on the hunt for clean stock TURBO MT MK4 Its bit out of topic, but how much I would want to pay for unmolested clean MK4 MT Turbo ? Any opinions? Were there any major changes in cross-models like prefacelifts/facelifts referring to year of manufacture.. like strength of chassis or suspension regarding this looking in to the year? Thanks £7-£10k but then again it depends if you want a Bone-stock car or one with some tasteful mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest INSANE Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I think I'd prefer bone stock so I can make some fresh history to it... seen few now in pistonheads can start looking at fairly good lookin ones from 5k mark up... would that be too good to be truth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodilx6 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 If you want a 100% stock, I would look towards j-spec import Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I think I'd prefer bone stock so I can make some fresh history to it... seen few now in pistonheads can start looking at fairly good lookin ones from 5k mark up... would that be too good to be truth? 5K for a 6 speed TT? This thread is starting to sound like an old Supertramp song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest INSANE Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 you mean Jap import? little read around they tend to have weaker brakes and limited power tuneup, but I suppose this all gets unlocked with proper mapping..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 you mean Jap import? little read around they tend to have weaker brakes and limited power tuneup, but I suppose this all gets unlocked with proper mapping..? I suggest you do another little read up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest INSANE Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 haha cheers guys I totally misread , yes there were few turbos from 5k mark but were autos, and manual turbo 6speed kicks off from 7k mark... http://pistonheads.com/sales/3523858.htm http://pistonheads.com/sales/3485114.htm http://pistonheads.com/sales/3543082.htm http://pistonheads.com/sales/2912212.htm and there goes 6speed MT twinturbos... http://pistonheads.com/sales/3555264.htm .... my bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I suggest you do another little read up Big style!!! And on that note, I'm out of here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Gaz Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I'm doing the ma auto to tt manual bit (now a ma manual, (halfway there) im doing to learn how to do everything on a car though (hidden wanting to be a mechanic), I also have access to the bits for not too much. If your paying someone to do the work then just buy a tt6 dude, its a shed load of work, but fun Good luck with the search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige-rz Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) If you can't afford a TT 6 speed, just buy a TT auto. Theres a good few in Ireland at the minute for slightly above your budget. The TT auto box gets a great write up, but I can't personally comment. I can say though that if it was me, I couldn't reccomend buying a NA supra, especially as you live in Ireland. €1500 a year to tax it and I can guarantee insurance won't be cheap. It's a lot of money to be spending for all show and very little go. There's virtually no diffrence in the mpg figure either, so it'll nearly have the same running costs as a TT. If a manual TT is out of budget, go for a TT auto. Where abouts are you in Ireland mate? Edited January 17, 2012 by nige-rz (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 little read around they tend to have weaker brakes and limited power tuneup Wrong and wrong. READ ME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodilx6 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 you mean Jap import? little read around they tend to have weaker brakes and limited power tuneup, but I suppose this all gets unlocked with proper mapping..? Yep. Smaller brakes. Bigger was an option and you should be able to find one with them. That shouldn't stop you though as then can easily be upgraded for maybe 500£ or so. Power more or less the same. UK spec can be pushed further on stock parts. 400 hp around max for j-spec and 450 for UK with more or less basic upgrades. If you go single turbo you are more or less equal on the two. Especially if you compare 6 spd to 6 spd. On the upside is that you will find it much easier to find 100% stock examples as well as the right combo of 6 spd, hardtop and low mileage. Go, Go, GO!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Yep. Smaller brakes. Bigger was an option and you should be able to find one with them. That shouldn't stop you though as then can easily be upgraded for maybe 500£ or so. The larger brakes were standard equipment on many J-spec Supras and an option on other models. Yes all UK Supra were fitted with the larger brakes, but only 600+ were ever sold, if you compare the numbers there were a lot more J-spec Supras that came factory fitted with the larger brakes. Power more or less the same. UK spec can be pushed further on stock parts. 400 hp around max for j-spec and 450 for UK with more or less basic upgrades.Especially if you compare 6 spd to 6 spd. 430hp is possible on a J-spec Supra. I'm not as familiar with the UK spec Supras, is 450hp really achievable with the slightly smaller stock turbos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodilx6 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 430hp is possible on a J-spec Supra but at an aboslut limit for injectors and fuel. I'm not as familiar with the UK spec Supras, is 450hp really achievable with the slightly smaller stock turbos? 430 is possible, but 400 is common and easily achievable. Thats what I though would be of interest to the OP. I see 450 often US supras on twins (they are even talking about 500+ whp, but hey, they do have a very different view on hp's) and 450 has been proven on stock EU turbos here in DK with a boost controller, decat and proper cooling. I'm not sure if cams are needed for that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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