drift_bear Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) I'm considering with going down the single route and i've been looking at the whifbitz kits and was just wondering what would be the best to go for and what supporting mods would i need? im aiming for around 700-750bhp and also looking at going from auto to 6 speed. http://whifbitzperformancetuning.co.uk/toyota-supra-supra-turbo-upgrades-turbo-kits-c-42_47_846_848.html Edited January 9, 2012 by drift_bear (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 My best guess is "a whole load of cash". If you place 700-750bhp under the hood then you will need to change lots of other things on the car to get the best out of it. Big single power is not cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littler Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 This is just by having a quick look while on the train lol but looking at the power figures the kit below will achieve the power you are after assuming you have the supporting mods: http://whifbitzperformancetuning.co.uk/toyota-supra-supra-turbo-upgrades-turbo-kits-garage-whifbitz-p-6011.html?osCsid=ae0d0a0c823f88043e6d7032f299e8ee I'd say PM Paul and ask for his opinion he will able to give much accurate figure to in terms of cost and supporting mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Turbo kit, gearbox and uprated clutch/diff, fuelling, ECU, engine work and additions, Dyno and labour then I reckon it would hit the 20k figure Edited January 9, 2012 by SupraAyf spelling - as usual (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Need to budget at the very least £15k IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift_bear Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Yeah I know that it won't be cheap and I wouldn't be cutting any corners either! I pm'd paul the other day, so waiting to hear back still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I'm with Scott on this approx £15K for a well specified single build. The turbo kit alone is around £5K. I assume you would want a Syvecs so plan £2k without mapping for the ECU and uprated sensors. Granted I have uprated the engine with rebuilt and uprated head, intake and throttle body, intercooler, fuel system etc... Mine will be around the 15-20k mark easily. It's all the little bits that cost the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Yep budget for minimum of 15k easy and then the rest is mainly little things like sensors and clips ect which i never thought about for the syvecs. I would say very close to 20k will be the better figure for a decent build with decent parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I would say very close to 20k will be the better figure for a decent build with decent parts This is the main point which all potential single-builders need to adhere too; i.e. the use of good kit and a reputable builder/tuner to achieve maximum reliability. I would hate to estimate just how many of our club members think that by slapping on a turbo and a manifold is all that is needed for pub-talk bhp figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Agree with the above. If you want 750hp built properly and using all the proper bit you wont get any change out fo £20k, to be honest if your wanting to do a manual conversion that is usually £3-£3500 and then you will need a hefty twin plate clutch to handle that power.... £20k may not even be enough lol BUT....if you can do it, you will LOVE it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Have you thought about using that money to buy one already built thats already goen through the major outlay, and heart ache, of getting it all spot on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 If i didnt like the colour of mine so much and also the cost forked out on interior and suspension, then i would have bought a single which is done and running nice. I dont have the type of money spare like some members do and i have to work even bloody harder to save up. Im only aiming for +500bhp figures and im still approaching the £20k mark, This side of the supra tuning is £££££ but im sure ill forget about it all when i kick down for the first time and hear her scream.... The forum is also SOOOOOOOOO good for bargains, i got injectors and exhaust system at a nice price and also lots of other goodies. Hunt around for additional parts required, not everything needs to be brand new. BUT, i would buy the turbo kit brand new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
add heywood Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 IMO I wouldn't pay for a single and 6 speed upgrade on any car. For 20k you could buy an OUTSTANDING 6spd single, that has cost the owner 40k to build. Let someone else go through the costly build process then take their car, time and money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 IMO I wouldn't pay for a single and 6 speed upgrade on any car. For 20k you could buy an OUTSTANDING 6spd single, that has cost the owner 40k to build. Let someone else go through the costly build process then take their car, time and money... exactly mate! Pm me an offer Mr Bear.....lol jokes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 If you want a reliable 700-750hp then you'll need the engine stripping and rebuilding with stronger internals, plus you'll need to upgrade all the ancillaries to support the power; fueling, cooling transmission, electronics, etc. etc. I'd guess at £20K minimum for a proper reliable install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Going from auto to 6speed is going to cost a wedge let alone going to 750hp. Could you not go single and stay with auto, then see if you could upgrade the transmission, and possibly increase the horses to a higher boost as required. if your running bpu would 500-600hp'ish not get the ball rolling and allow room for transmission upgrades. OR just swap everything out thats required and be laughing all the way to the fuel station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 You're talking a forged block, built up head with cams, 67-71mm turbo kit, V160 swap, clutch (ideally carbon twin), fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel rail, injectors, FPR, etc Add labour to that, and you're in to 20k, with some ease I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Where as the same money will buy you a fresh VVTi single from Japan. http://www.carsensor.net/usedcar/detail/CU0811840210/index.html?TRCD=200002 Plus, you'd be able to sell your current car. This is why I bought an imported single rather than convert the uk spec I had at the time, the cost can be hard to swallow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift_bear Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 I'm just trying to get a rough cost of going down that route its not 100% yet. I would like the satisfaction of "building" my own monster and not get one already done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I would say 20-25k with the 6speed would be minimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Wow...single build would be great Alex...you won the lotto or something!? I couldn't see myself spending £20k on a build (atleast not for a few years!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 When you say "building" are you planning on doing it yourself? , you will spend 20k with ease, more like 25k id say getting a well setup real 750bhp. I would not advise anyone on going that way unlesss you plan to keep the car for ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I'm just trying to get a rough cost of going down that route its not 100% yet. I would like the satisfaction of "building" my own monster and not get one already done. /QUOTE] I searched allot before starting mine, you see some prices put up and think really I can do it for less than that and after having a look at the kit and clutch and fuel setup however the answer is no you can't once you start it’s a slippery slope money pit its always oh now I need this or,I might as well fit a new one of these while I am there. The joy though for me is trying to do as much as I can building it myself I think buying one pre-done would save money but maybe like you say its the satisfaction of doing it yourself , it certiantly cant be getting cold,dirty and cut hands and sounding like I have got tourettes most times I work on it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 When you say "building" are you planning on doing it yourself? , you will spend 20k with ease, more like 25k id say getting a well setup real 750bhp. I would not advise anyone on going that way unlesss you plan to keep the car for ever. Your correct mate. I wouldnt like to attempt to do a FULL build on one on my own, as there is alot to get wrong, im not ashamed to Send the car off to SRD for Lee to finish but the monwy for the build has crept up. I believe i have the best two companys working on my pride and joy- 2bartuning and SRD. enough said! If your not going to keep the car in the long run then shop around for a ready done one. You will never see the single build money ever again!! Mine wont be worth what i have spent by the time its ready (even though there never ready/finished lol) but i just love the car to bits, its my hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abtin90 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 If I had the money to buy a big single 6 speed as others have already mentioned I'd buy one thats already built. The likes of Kevin Huntley, geo, Ricky, Add Heyward have all had their cars for sale and for what it would has cost to build them they were all for sale at a bargain price. I think you'd be better off buying one built that way you'd avoid the wait and wouldn't lose out when and if you decide to ever sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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