Chris Wilson Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I want to make some neat custom length network cables, and also add a network around the house and to the workshops. What sort of cable should I buy, and where's cheapest to buy a roll? I have the crimp tool for the connectors, but will need to buy more of the connectors themselves, where's best for these? Do you need any special tooling to terminate the wall sockets? Cheers. I am just networking Windows PC's and network printers, maybe one Linux PC, nothing exotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Ultimate tip of the day for you Chris. Buy twice as many network ends as you need. You will not successfully crimp them 100% of the time. Also id pick up a network cable tester (you plug it into both ends and it will confirm you have crimped it correctly.) I get most of my stuff from CPC - it could be cheaper perhaps on ebay or something, but I dont like waiting for things, and they are a one stop shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyTwo Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 krone tool for punching down into sockets: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Network-BT-Punch-Down-Push-IDC-Faceplate-Krone-Tool-/270631823873?pt=UK_Computing_NetworkingTools_Accessories_SM&hash=item3f02e9ea01 simple cable tester: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ETHERNET-NETWORK-LAN-CAT5-CAT5E-RJ45-RJ11-CABLE-TESTER-/280620731105?pt=UK_Computing_NetworkingTools_Accessories_SM&hash=item41564c8ae1 and a cut/ crimp tool: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Crimper-RJ45-Modular-Ends-10-x-RJ45-Ends-/380224978599?pt=UK_Computing_NetworkingTools_Accessories_SM&hash=item58872cbea7 Cable wise unless you have any special requirements I would stick with Cat5e cable. Can get a 305m box from eaby for under £30 these days. I have just rewired an entire office using with over 4 boxes of the stuff and its fine. cable: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=305m+cat5e&_sacat=0&_odkw=cat5e+box&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313 sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo2810 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 You will not successfully crimp them 100% of the time. Amateur! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 http://www.screwfix.com/p/network-cabling-kit/10346 We used to buy some really nice single rj45 surface outlet sockets from CPC, but just had a look on their website and cant find them now, but as a retrofit they were much smaller and tidier than the usual surface boxes. If I find them I will post a link up. Decent krone tool and decent crimping/stripping tool is a must though. Here we are, found them. These make a nice alternative to normal size outlet box/plates and you simply punchdown the cat5 into them using a krone tool. They do a twin outlet version too. http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/psg08000/socket-surface-rj45-cat6-single/dp/CS16167?Ntt=cs16167 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I would say yourself a small fortune and the hassle, just use an adapter so you can send the singal via your electrical outlet or setup a wireless LAN http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=ethernet+adapter+powerline+plug&sprefix=Ethernet+Adapter+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Very neat and tidy solution here http://www.devolo.com/consumer/90_dlan-500-avtriple_starter-kit_product-presentation_1.html?l=en Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 I am using the ethernet over mains gizmos at the moment, save for one hard wired socket in a bedroom. They are a bit slow when shifting data, and with the place being a bungalow with empty roof space and conduit in the walls for radiator piping with room to feed cables down, and with me already having put in ducting to the 2 shops with a pull through in them, cabling won't be too big a job. The cabled socket in the bedroom is far faster and more glitch free than the ethernet over mains, which is admittedly clever and very easy After putting up a mile of fencing and digging in 1/4 mile of plastic water piping I think of this ethernet job as a bit of a warm and dry holiday for me Thanks for the idea though. `Er indoors says I need to do some work on the house though, not that putting in a network is perhaps EXACTLY what she had in mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Very neat and tidy solution here http://www.devolo.com/consumer/90_dlan-500-avtriple_starter-kit_product-presentation_1.html?l=en Thanks, how do these compare with a network cable though Johnny? Can't see any prices, either? Speak soon re the block, thanks for the PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Thanks, how do these compare with a network cable though Johnny? Can't see any prices, either? Speak soon re the block, thanks for the PM I run the 200Mbit version at home, I sustain around 72-74Mbit, so it's perfectly adequate. A pack of 3 will be around £125, so it's not bank breaking, but it does save a lot of hassle. I'll give you a call next week, re block and injectors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Very neat and tidy solution here http://www.devolo.com/consumer/90_dlan-500-avtriple_starter-kit_product-presentation_1.html?l=en Question - if you go for the adapter with 3 network connections - is the rated speed (200/500, etc) per port or per adapter? I am also assuming that it is a shared medium rather than switched. EDIT, ANSWER: its a shared medium with the rated speed on a per adapter basis rather than per port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 cat5 Also suitable as fuse substitut;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Question - if you go for the adapter with 3 network connections - is the rated speed (200/500, etc) per port or per adapter? I am also assuming that it is a shared medium rather than switched. I've no idea to be fair. I'm running the 200Mbit singles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Take it an N wireless set up would not be suitable? Network cable is a lot more of a stable method but if wireless is possibly it would be an easier option? (I am sure you have thought this through). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Take it an N wireless set up would not be suitable? Network cable is a lot more of a stable method but if wireless is possibly it would be an easier option? (I am sure you have thought this through). God I literally hate wireless network connections. They work, some are fast - but if you can just use a cable - id just use a cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 God I literally hate wireless network connections. They work, some are fast - but if you can just use a cable - id just use a cable. In order of preference for me its :- 1) Wired Network 2) Home Plugs 3) Wireless I use home plugs where ever possible and they are easily capable of streaming full 1080p from shared storage to media players, they were never intended for copying vast amounts of data where a wired gigabit network will win hands down. Wireless should be kept for smart phones, tablets and some laptop use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I bloody hate wireless. If you can use Wireless-N and the 5GHz band then it's maybe alright, but on 2.4GHz our little cul-de-sac is just far too congested. Unfortunately the Wii and our mobiles don't support 5GHz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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