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Its seems that nowadays, people tend to just sit back and watch things happen without intervening through fear of repercussions

 

Its quite refreshing to see someone having an "old-school, no sh*t" approach to dealing with things like this. The lad obviously believed that he could get away with acting like a disrespectful little scrote. I'd like to blame the society that we live in where we wrap our children up in cotton wool; weak discipline in schools and at home has bred a generation of these socially challenged chimps. It made my blood boil when I watched the video of the racist woman on the train the other week

 

.....one day a rain is gonna come, and wash away all the scum off the streets

 

Anyone up for wrapping their cars in matt black and starting a vigilante group

 

Good post! :thumbs:

 

I loved the way how calm the big man was & advised politely before picking him up, even apologised when he dropped the little toerag on his head. :D

 

If the young chav was polite then I'd condone the big man drop but he obviously thought he could get away with anything.

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Glad to hear the wee man is getting done too. I'm hoping that the reason for pushing on him is so that he is convinced to drop the charges on the 'Big Man'.

 

At the end of the day I don't feel either of them should be getting done. Theres no way that the big man should be seeing an assault charge, every doorman in the UK would be in court weekly if that was the case, and the chav has paid his dues IMO.

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Reading all these posts have made me remember the post Scott linked to the child who got run over in China. No one helped!!! Due to the fear of being sued. Now with the big man getting charged these days for so little, everyone is going to start looking the other way now, when it comes to things like this.....

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Everybody has there opinion clearly however....... From a legal view the guy that everybody is now calling "BIG MAN" has unfortunatly put himself in a position where he can be Sued for assault and battery (Civil) or possibly Prosecuted for assault (Criminal) either way the Teenager would most likely be awarded compensation for his distress and or injurys.

 

Whilst I certainly dont agree with the Teenagers actions or language at all, at present it would appear that the BTP (British Transport Police) are only concerned about bringing "BIG MAN" up on charges of assault (criminal) Or so the BBC reports, this does not at all suprise me I would personally advise "BIG MAN" would have been of better use if he had simply phoned the police or the ticket conductor had phoned police as they have the power to remove the little Miscreant.

 

Yet again I will mention I do not agree that the Teenager is in the right I am simply giving my opinion on the legal issue raised.

 

Ive just read back through all the comments and to clear things up as to the use of "Reasonable Force" it cannot be used as a defence if the person exercising It never had the Lawful right to do so, as in this case the conductor may have used "Reasonable Force" but as somebody has already mentioned he was unlikely to do so because of his age etc... however the "BIG MAN" did not have the legal right to Exercise this power as he has no authority unlike the Conductor.

 

Somebody also mentions why are bouncers not in court every week well... On private property a bar etc all door staff must be SIA approved and have Legal authority to eject people from the premises using "Reasonable Force" the issue with bouncers is Accountability who stipulates to what degree is "Reasonable Force" an interesting subject for another time.

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