Purity14 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 If all rights were banned, they would have to enforce a three left turn policy at every junction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 LOL I can't believe people actually think this is worth debating, I always thought younger people (which are probably what a lot of this forum's members are, relatively speaking), were radical and wanting their rights and freedom. I think the government are putting something in the water to pacify the young and make the accept all these additions to a law that is already totally adequate if implemented properly. Doesn't due care and attention cover this potential for swerving about the road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 That's pretty narrow minded. We all have our vices dude.... you should be free to do as you wish. Is w@nking whilst driving banned because of the potential for indecent exposure or the fact that you could be done for undue car/dangerous etc. Either way I have to stop as I am struggling to read road signs these days. Oh and smoking is a filthy habit, you wouldn't catch me doing anything disgusting like that. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Some of the posts on here seem to be, to me, missing the point. Personally, I don't care if you smoke or not, or whether you drink, do weed, whatever. That's all personal choice and everybody is entitled to do whatever they want. However, when you're hurtling towards me at 70mph in a ton and a half of metal I'd like to know that you're concentrating fully on keeping your car on your side of the road and not being distracted by a) texting your mates that you're hurtling towards some tw@t in a Supra whilst steering with your knees b) rolling a fag c) chewing on a cheese and tomato sarnie. Wouldn't be so funny if you had a policeman stood on your doorstep telling you your wife/husband and kids had been wiped out by some toss who was so desparate for a fag he couldn't be arsed to keep his car on the right side of the road and ploughed into their car as a consequence. This isn't about taking away civil liberties, it's about realising just how important it is to take responsibility for the fact that your actions can affect the lives of others. God forbid any of you on here are on the other side of this potential outcome. I have had a few pints though and reserve the right to disown any comments made tonight!! Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Think of the children ! They should also make abs mandatory on prams , restrict kids to playing dominos (with the correct safety gear), conkers !!!- Ban!!. Smoking , ban, people with glasses , ban, tall people ban,short people ban, long hair ,ban ,people with coughs ,ban, people with nervous twitches , ban, in fact you are all banned !-lol that should clear up the roads .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 If we keep on legislating we would all end up being Amish,after a week chopping wood and such like , we would take our black buggies to Santa pod , where strangely every race would end in a draw ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 If we keep on legislating we would all end up being Amish,after a week chopping wood and such like , we would take our black buggies to Santa pod , where strangely every race would end in a draw ! Abz would still finish last, even when driving his Supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 If we keep on legislating we would all end up being Amish,after a week chopping wood and such like , we would take our black buggies to Santa pod , where strangely every race would end in a draw ! People would be flogging a dead horse, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 unless they can prove holding a fag while driving causes you to drive without being able to fully control the car this idea is stupid. people have died purely from people operating the car radio, you don't hear them considering removing this option from cars for safety reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Some related stuff here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_bans_in_private_vehicles#cite_note-28 Suggests that its already banned in Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2soops Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Seems a bit Ironic to me that on a forum dedicated to tuning and maintaining high powered sports cars, some in excess of 1000bhp, which are regularly driven on public roads, people are simply worried about smoking a fag. How many of us can say we always obey every traffic law, never get over excited and do something silly and always drive in accordance with speed limits etc. Ive driven as a smoker and non smoker, if you can drive safely you can, if you cant you cant, dosent matter what the distraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Abz would still finish last, even when driving his Supra. And therefore he should be the first to be made to wear one of those really uncool black hats - lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Seems a bit Ironic to me that on a forum dedicated to tuning and maintaining high powered sports cars, some in excess of 1000bhp, which are regularly driven on public roads, people are simply worried about smoking a fag. How many of us can say we always obey every traffic law, never get over excited and do something silly and always drive in accordance with speed limits etc. Ive driven as a smoker and non smoker, if you can drive safely you can, if you cant you cant, dosent matter what the distraction. I quite agree, seems ludicrous that members are actually bothering to discuss this given the interest in making there cars as fast and powerful as possible, makes me wonder just what the pro arguments will be when they come to banning the modifying of cars altogether (and they will!) think about it, and look at trends, will you be quite so sure that going along with this sort of restriction in lifestyle is the way to go?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 stock all the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little num Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Personally i think smoking should be banned full STOP its a filthy dirty stinky habit, if you wanna kill yourself by feeding harmful smoke into your body then you need your head looking at. Just my opinion of course lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attero Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Personally i think smoking should be banned full STOP its a filthy dirty stinky habit, if you wanna kill yourself by feeding harmful smoke into your body then you need your head looking at. Just my opinion of course lol. It would be banned entirely if it wasn't such a massive contribution to our economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneybrendan Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 ban it definately.wasnt going to bother putting a view,but today i saw some numpty steering with his elbows while trying to roll a fag.He crapped it when i blasted my horn as he was not paying any attention to the upcoming roundabout.He dropped all his rolly and proceded to give me the finger.What could you say i just laughed at him and drove on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Cant believe the poll result, allready to much control in this nanny state, (i dont smoke) i dont even think the blanket ban indoors etc is right should be down to personal & company prefence. NOT THE GOVERMENT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Why such shock at the poll? This is the generation that created the nanny state.....Report to your local Diversity Officer at once ,for retraining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Why such shock at the poll? This is the generation that created the nanny state.....Report to your local Diversity Officer at once ,for retraining I cant be retrained, i'm to old:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 So do all the people who think it is OK to smoke whilst driving also think it is OK to use a non-hands free mobile phone whilst driving? And before you say its not the same thing, it takes your attention away from what you are supposed to be doing, so as far as I'm concerned its exactly the same thing. And the person who posted "if you can drive safely you can, if you cant you cant, if you can drive safely you can, if you cant you cant" - how do you find out if you are in the "can't" category? Presumably the moment just after you've ploughed into the car in front / tree / pedestrian. I'm not after a "nanny state" any more that most but I do think there should be consistency in the law. If driving with a mobile is banned then eating, drinking and smoking at the wheel should be banned too. I think that having to demonstrate the fact that you are not in control of your car to the point where a police officer (should one be nearby) can spot it and observe you long enough to make the decision to pull you over is like closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. There are probably many people (particularly from the previous generation) who would argue that that they could drive perfectly well to an external observer even after having had one too many, but since it is now accepted that drink driving causes accidents, its banned and the ban is also widely socially accepted. If there is similar evidence that driving whist doing other activites is similarly dangerous, then why is there so much negativity associated with a potential ban on smoking? The "children in car" argument, to me, just comes across as "I will defend my right to have a lit peice of paper in my mouth, potentially dropping ash in my lap, flicking a fag out of the window every few seconds, while I travel towards you at a closing speed of 120mph, but - oh no - not if my child is in the car, because I'm responsible". Sorry. Doesn't make any sense at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 digsy mate spot on , the child bit as far as im concerned is purely a health thing for the little uns who dont have the choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AilsaMX5 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Some of the posts on here seem to be, to me, missing the point. Personally, I don't care if you smoke or not, or whether you drink, do weed, whatever. That's all personal choice and everybody is entitled to do whatever they want. However, when you're hurtling towards me at 70mph in a ton and a half of metal I'd like to know that you're concentrating fully on keeping your car on your side of the road and not being distracted by a) texting your mates that you're hurtling towards some tw@t in a Supra whilst steering with your knees b) rolling a fag c) chewing on a cheese and tomato sarnie. Wouldn't be so funny if you had a policeman stood on your doorstep telling you your wife/husband and kids had been wiped out by some toss who was so desparate for a fag he couldn't be arsed to keep his car on the right side of the road and ploughed into their car as a consequence. This isn't about taking away civil liberties, it's about realising just how important it is to take responsibility for the fact that your actions can affect the lives of others. God forbid any of you on here are on the other side of this potential outcome. I have had a few pints though and reserve the right to disown any comments made tonight!! ^^this No matter how you try to justify it, dropping a burning cigarette on yourself IS going to distract you and I'd rather my car (and maybe "my life" for that matter) not be on the receiving end. I don't have a problem with people smoking at all, I'm not a smoker but I sometimes have the odd social one in the past - I'd just prefer people to do it whilst stationary. I completely see where people are coming from with the "ban everything" health and safety nonsense going on right now, but you're not allowed to adjust your sat nav etc when your driving, which wouldn't burn a hole in your thigh/your expensive retrim if you dropped it, so it makes sense to ban something that has the potential to cause injury to the driver. The point comparing it to smoking in your house is academic, since your house doesn't tend to travel at 70mph+ or have the potential to cause death by the owner's distraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kill1308 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Who thinks that 'thinking whilst driving' should be banned? A recent survey has shown that people 'thinking' about other things whilst driving makes the driver a danger to other road users as they are not paying attention to what they are doing. Banning thinking whilst driving will reduce accidents by a made up percentage. I think we should ban it.... I can't believe people think about other things whilst driving.... it's such a hazard. The best solution in my eyes is to stop thinking altogether and simply let the government control your thoughts and opinions. On a slightly more related and serious note, I'd love to know how many people in this thread who are harping on about people smoking whilst driving actually pull over and bring their vehicle to a standstill to adjust their stereo or change a CD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 when i drive i dont have any sat nav radio bugger all on as my train of thought is on the numptys coming the other way trying to get a fag out of theyre lap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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