peter richards Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 yes i agree , this banning everything does seem to be taking over , but in regards to this thread i think it should, im as you can see very anti smoking , ive lost to many close friends and only recently family through the weed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 yes i agree , this banning everything does seem to be taking over , but in regards to this thread i think it should, im as you can see very anti smoking , ive lost to many close friends and only recently family through the weed Not saying that's not a bad thing, but it's nothing to do with smoking in cars. Also, do you mean they contracted cancer from the tobacco in the joints, or they've lost their minds due to weed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kill1308 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 yes i agree , this banning everything does seem to be taking over , but in regards to this thread i think it should, im as you can see very anti smoking , ive lost to many close friends and only recently family through the weed I can see that... and you're entitled to your opinion I'm a smoker (albeit not a heavy one) and I too have lost family to smoking, so I know where you're coming from But the way I see it, if you're very anti-smoking, then just don't smoke. The 'ban culture' that's sweeping the nation because people don't agree with something is wrong, people should be free to do what they wish. I think alcohol is an awful substance that costs the country far more, but I'm not trying to ban it... Anyway, I'm derailing this topic so I'll leave it there I can also see why some people think it should be banned whilst driving, I just don't think it should. I consider myself a good driver and have never endangered myself or others when smoking... there's far bigger issues on the road that need tackling in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I can see that... and you're entitled to your opinion I'm a smoker (albeit not a heavy one) and I too have lost family to smoking, so I know where you're coming from But the way I see it, if you're very anti-smoking, then just don't smoke. The 'ban culture' that's sweeping the nation because people don't agree with something is wrong, people should be free to do what they wish. I think alcohol is an awful substance that costs the country far more, but I'm not trying to ban it... Anyway, I'm derailing this topic so I'll leave it there I can also see why some people think it should be banned whilst driving, I just don't think it should. I consider myself a good driver and have never endangered myself or others when smoking... there's far bigger issues on the road that need tackling in my opinion. I totally agree with what you have said there, but people should be free to do it if they wish if they are not harming anyone else in the process, inthere own homes etc. The difference between alcohol and tobacco is huge imo. If you drink you are by no means harming the people around you, but by smoking you are exposing others to the harmful effects of the substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I cant believe more people have voted Yes than No. The whole notion is rediculous, where will it end?? Maybe we should just all stay at home wrapped up in cotton wool and bubble wrap. Why dont we just hand over what little control over our lives we have left over to the government and be done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 They can ban smoking in cars, but only when they've got around to addressing: - the state of the roads - the standard of driving - problems of lane-hogging - uninsured drivers - insurance fraud - everything else wrong with our motoring infrastructure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I totally agree with what you have said there, but people should be free to do it if they wish if they are not harming anyone else in the process, inthere own homes etc. The difference between alcohol and tobacco is huge imo. If you drink you are by no means harming the people around you, but by smoking you are exposing others to the harmful effects of the substance. Actually, the effects of drinking on others *can* be even worse. Smoking doesn't cause people to fight in city centres on Saturday nights imagine how much binge drinking costs th NHS too? So long as smoking outside isn't prohibited I don't have a problem. Smoking indoors is nasty, others shouldn't have to inhale second hand smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Actually, the effects of drinking on others *can* be even worse. Smoking doesn't cause people to fight in city centres on Saturday nights imagine how much binge drinking costs th NHS too? So long as smoking outside isn't prohibited I don't have a problem. Smoking indoors is nasty, others shouldn't have to inhale second hand smoke. I knew someone would say that, and the minority that do this imo should have the self control to not drink or know there limits, I was more referring to a couple of pints, not a binge drinking chav. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Im neither anti nor pro smoking. I dont care if its banned or not, doubt there are that many accidents directly attributed to smoking. Could we not just ban ditsy women from driving, that way Geo would have never had a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Not saying that's not a bad thing, but it's nothing to do with smoking in cars. Also, do you mean they contracted cancer from the tobacco in the joints, or they've lost their minds due to weed?i hope thats not meant to be funny mate, yes cancer from smoking , and what i meant was only if children are in the cars , and thats what i think will come in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 i hope thats not meant to be funny mate, yes cancer from smoking , and what i meant was only if children are in the cars , and thats what i think will come in No, not at all. Just wondering why you attributed it to weed rather than general smoking. Sorry to hear that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 yes if children are in the vehicle , drives me loopy when i see parents abusing the children . Radio 1 stopped me in Central London the other day to ask me about this and this is the answer I gave. The ONLY reason I would ban it if there were children in the vehicle. I said that otherwise, smoking whilst driving really forms part of the driver's muscle memory and banning it purely for that would just open the floodgates for further illogical bans. Where do you draw the line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 just terminology , the dreaded weed , not dope:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 probably increase the roadrage big time . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 just terminology , the dreaded weed , note dope Ooooh, ok. Yeah, it's weird how certain people get illnesses from smoking when others don't. My Dad's uncle has smoked since he was 12 (now 86) and he's perfectly fine. My Granddad smoked from about 15 till he was about 40 and died from cancer, but not related to smoking. Anyways, I think banning it in cars when children are in there shouldn't need to come into effect, as it should be common sense. probably increase the roadrage big time . I think there'd be a large decrease if people were allowed to toke and drive, but that's for another thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 thats the problem its a habit and tough to kick , even when the kids are in the vehicle , suprising how often you see it , especially on the school runs in the morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideexitsupra Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 probably increase the roadrage big time . I think this is the big point that most have missed. There are enough aggressive drivers rushing around everywhere without adding thousands of stressed, nicotine craving others to the mix. Yes it is a disgusting habit, yes I am a smoker, no I have never smoked in the house, nor have I ever smoked in front of children who know me. My view is ban it when there are children or non smokers in the car. Remember it is already an offence to smoke in vehicles that are not privately owned and have multiple users, even if you are the only one in the vehicle at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Anything you can actually hold whilst driving should be banned. Especially cigarettes which are less likely to be disgarded in an attempt to hold the steering wheel properly, obviously because they can burn the interior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attero Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 When I used to smoke in my old cars (I don't with the Supra), I would flick the ash constantly and I would light it without having to look away from the road. I would never consider it dangerous. As I said, you would have to be a seriously bad driver to make it have an effect. I agree with banning it if there are kids in the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I have no time for this sort of rubbish, leaving all the other common sense points aside for smoking, whats going to be next? no passing wind! if we keep up this molly coddling PC rubbish we will have no rights left, and all be riding around in insulated bubbles, the end result being more safety, no rights, no free will, = less accidents, less deaths, more over population, more pollution etc etc, so just expiating our headlong rush to accelerated extinction, IMO let just try and enjoy ourselves along the way;) Which with the favorite bands thread, brings to mind a line from the Floyd album, Dark side of the Moon, "hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way" kind of says it all to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I knew someone would say that, and the minority that do this imo should have the self control to not drink or know there limits, I was more referring to a couple of pints, not a binge drinking chav. You say minority, but it still happens enough to make city centres relatively unsafe on a night (especially at weekends) Smoking indoors in public has been banned (and so it should IMO) stopping people from smoking outdoors would be too much of an infringement on smokers rights IMO. Drinking is definately on a par with smoking for its effects on others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 as i said im anti smoking , but i think if a ban does come in it will be for the health benefit of children , now if there arnt any children in the car personally ive no problem with that if thats what you want to do to yourself . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Some of the posts on here seem to be, to me, missing the point. Personally, I don't care if you smoke or not, or whether you drink, do weed, whatever. That's all personal choice and everybody is entitled to do whatever they want. However, when you're hurtling towards me at 70mph in a ton and a half of metal I'd like to know that you're concentrating fully on keeping your car on your side of the road and not being distracted by a) texting your mates that you're hurtling towards some tw@t in a Supra whilst steering with your knees b) rolling a fag c) chewing on a cheese and tomato sarnie. Wouldn't be so funny if you had a policeman stood on your doorstep telling you your wife/husband and kids had been wiped out by some toss who was so desparate for a fag he couldn't be arsed to keep his car on the right side of the road and ploughed into their car as a consequence. This isn't about taking away civil liberties, it's about realising just how important it is to take responsibility for the fact that your actions can affect the lives of others. God forbid any of you on here are on the other side of this potential outcome. I have had a few pints though and reserve the right to disown any comments made tonight!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Some of the posts on here seem to be, to me, missing the point. Personally, I don't care if you smoke or not, or whether you drink, do weed, whatever. That's all personal choice and everybody is entitled to do whatever they want. However, when you're hurtling towards me at 70mph in a ton and a half of metal I'd like to know that you're concentrating fully on keeping your car on your side of the road and not being distracted by a) texting your mates that you're hurtling towards some tw@t in a Supra whilst steering with your knees b) rolling a fag c) chewing on a cheese and tomato sarnie. Wouldn't be so funny if you had a policeman stood on your doorstep telling you your wife/husband and kids had been wiped out by some toss who was so desparate for a fag he couldn't be arsed to keep his car on the right side of the road and ploughed into their car as a consequence. This isn't about taking away civil liberties, it's about realising just how important it is to take responsibility for the fact that your actions can affect the lives of others. God forbid any of you on here are on the other side of this potential outcome. I have had a few pints though and reserve the right to disown any comments made tonight!! Bang on mate. Now, go for a hard drive and work off that alcohol in your system! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xzarik Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Ban taking an addictive drug whilst driver? NEVER! No but in all seriousness, we should legalise doing puzzles, juggling and blowjobs whilst driving too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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