Guest royboy820 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Hi everyone, well as the title says... im here for advice. Im after a supra, and would love a single turbo one. Im 22 and my work horse i bought after selling my mk4 r32 and buying a house is not going to pass its next mot in 6 months, soooooooooooo.... ive been aloud to browse my favorite cars again, and the awesome supra might just tick all the boxes. MPG isnt a issue, the golf did 7 on a hard run lol, insurance is great for a turbo or na at under a 1k.. tax and running/ servicing isnt a prob i dont think it can be more than the r or my old 2.0L calibra (sh1t heap) So, to put a point to my mindless ramblings; 1) what does a n/a do 0-60 compared to a single turbo? 2) whats the chance of getting one for under £4,000? (either + imports) 3) do they do a manual aero-roof thingy? 4) if i can get a n/a for under £4,000 and not a turbo, how much are turbo kits? and how much hassle are they? 5) also whats the deal with cloth front seats leather rears? or is my mate lying? (astra vxr man so i expect he is) any help is greatly appreciated, thanks alot, had a peak at a few cars on here and damn...... nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyh_15 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Welcome 1) what does a n/a do 0-60 compared to a single turbo? Depends on the single turbo set up! Have a read in the Technical section! 2) whats the chance of getting one for under £4,000? (either + imports) NA easy under 4! TT if it's a dog! Single no chance! 3) do they do a manual aero-roof thingy? Check the variants in the supra technical section 4) if i can get a n/a for under £4,000 and not a turbo, how much are turbo kits? and how much hassle are they?again check out the tec section all will be answered in more detail than I will go into 5) also whats the deal with cloth front seats leather rears? or is my mate lying? (astra vxr man so i expect he is) check the variants again and it will say! Think it's the uk spec that came with full leather! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezzler Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 7mpg in a R32!? What the hell were you doing with it? Mkiv Supra's were either n/a or twin-turbo; any single turbo mkiv will be an aftermarket conversion - i'm guessing you mean twin-turbo when you say single turbo? Your insurance seems mighty cheap considering your age, i'm having a guess that the quotation that you have had if for a UK spec car - J-specs will be substantially more expensive to insure. Worth taking a look into Answers to questions: 1) use the search bar its a very common question (remember that the Supra isnt really a 0-60 car, its more of a 60-180 kinda car!) 2) You can buy a really tidy manual N/A for under 4k, or you could buy a dog of a TT with an auto gearbox. For your average BPU auto TT you would be looking to budget between 6-7k 3) Use the search bar - there is also a Supra guide on here that explains all the different model types. Worth a read 4) You can buy an N/A for under 4k, but its not worth the extra expense of converting it. If you want a turbo, but a TT 5) The rear seats are vinyl, GZ and UK spec cars had leather front seats And a foot note; if you decide to buy a TT, it WILL cost you a great deal more to service and maintain than your Calibra and R32 combined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest royboy820 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 thanks very much kind sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Hello to the club. If you are interested I suggest you spend some time reading up on them, the newbie section has loads of information. With regards to the difference between an NA & a single turbo is between 200 - 1500 bhp! Exactly, so I'd read up on as much as you can. Are you planning on using it as a work horse like the R32? They run very well when looked after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest royboy820 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 n/a it is then!!! time to get looking for a white one under 4k lol thanks alot bradleyh and pezzler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest royboy820 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 (edited) hi abz, no no ive just been given a 61 plate sprinter from work... im a plumber/gas fitter, so my k reg isuzu trooper (work horse i bought to replace my r32 that i sold to buy a house, think that makes sense) has just died off roading from a cracked chassis lol. so the supra would be a weekend and fun car only as the mrs has a 09 for ka (worst car i have ever drove) for the dog so it free's me up for a toy again oh by the way ive never been into jap cars that bad, mostly vags, thats why im new to all this engine code stuff. just wanted a nice change from the 'euro' style taking over the world closest i got to a jap car was a yellow 54 hyundai coupe 2.0L Edited December 6, 2011 by royboy820 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 hello! 1) Alot worse than a Single! 2) NA no probs anything else nope.. 3) All aero tops came as an auto but some people do a manual conversion 4) Wouldn't bother with an NA if you want a turbo, just keep saving your pennies! 5) There not leather rears there PVC, The Japs arn't a fan of leather due to it always being warm! Correct me if I'm wrong anywhere lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 hello! 1) Alot worse than a Single! 2) NA no probs anything else nope.. 3) All aero tops came as an auto but some people do a manual conversion 4) Wouldn't bother with an NA if you want a turbo, just keep saving your pennies! 5) There not leather rears there PVC, The Japs arn't a fan of leather due to it always being warm! Correct me if I'm wrong anywhere lol Some of the imports come with leather like the GZ models. No worries, loads to read & learn on here & welcome to the mysteries Jap fold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Are you sure you have been checking insurance for MKIV supras? I'm surprised you are getting quotes near where you are considering your age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet_uk Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 First question should be CAN YOU GET INSURANCE? even on a NA it must be silly money for a 22 year old and if your looking at NA'S they are all imports before you ask the question. and welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 get a import tt auto wait and check everything you could get for £4k the way prices are now .not worth doing a turbo conversion on the n/a imo its cheaper to just get the tt in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) Insurance. Obviously it's dependant on the individual. But jspec insurance isn't always much more. My 400 bhp uk spec is only a few hundred cheaper than my 520bhp jspec single turbo. Ignore compare the meercat etc quotes. They are useless for supras. For me anyway. I got one quote for my uk car. The only quote it gave me. And that was more than the car was worth (£9999). Sky insure me arround the 1000-1200 mark. Double check it's a quote for a 93-2001 mkiv supra and not a mkiii. And it's a jspec. Unless you happed to buy a uk. When I called to pay for my insurance after I was given the quote I was told "and it's a uk car?" when I'd told them it was an import several times. the price didn't change though. Cloth was available front and rear on facelift cars. But I think it was quite a rare option. I've only ever seen it on the cloth patern people don't like lol Don't worry about the rear being leather (or vinyl). No body is going to be sitting back there anyway! And leather front seats are quite common to buy and dead east to fit. I'd also be are I'll jumping into a tt from a r23 golf. They are 4x4 are they not? A tt in the wet on a crappy bit of road without good tyres will spin the wheels at 3-4000 rpm. So even easy acceleration will send you sideways. Sometimes without warning. Then add that into exiting a corner and accreting too early you either have fun... Or a big accident. So be careful. Not that an na won't doo that too. But you have to driving like a tool in the rain I'd hang arround here over the winter. It's "binned my car last night" season. Keron's (forum trader and supra breaker) favourite time of year Edited December 7, 2011 by Guigsy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest royboy820 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 hi, wow really nice forum and thanks ALOT for all the replies and help, to answer a few questions, yes the golf r32s are 4wd, but i want rwd and all its run/risks lol. yes to all insurance is very surprising thats why ive taken elephant up on the offer, for a uk OR a import i stressed this alot on the phone call it was a £60 increase for the import, very strange but i live in a very low crime area. I have 3 points, sp30. and 5 years no claims and just had my onliy claim removed as its 5 years on. like i said i was shocked to hear the price and thats why its full steam ahead on the supra dream!! hmm not sure weather to go n/a or tt now... got to be manual without a doubt i dont like driving aut) ide love a turbo but servicing, reliability, the cost of buying a decent tt.... hmm choices lol anyway thanks ever so much for all the help seems like im going to enjoy my time on this site. enjoy it even more once i own one haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fri3ndly Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Personally if I were in your situation I would buy an auto TT - you will not regret it ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Auto is a much nicer drive than the 6 speed with just as much go. The auto box is very very good. Prety sure Elephant won't cover any performance mods. So you need to be carefully of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest royboy820 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) but how are the autos? ide never use it in heavy traffic just for fun and i only live 20 seconds away from miles and miles of back roads, i live in the suburbs. so the comfort of an auto wouldnt be a thing i would want.. ive drove a few autos, 3 series, volvo s60, c class compact, merc ml nothing with the grunt of a supra though... just personally like manuals, feel more connected to the car and more involved all the other usual stuff lol sorry, yes your right elephant wont cover mods but i think i can survive a year without modding... i hope lol Edited December 7, 2011 by royboy820 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross C Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Ive got sn auto na and as a 20 year old, i would warn you that if u are using insurance quotes from confused.com or suchlike, then phone the company with the quote you want and find out how much it really is. I was quoted £1500 online and then it was £5000 to actually take out the policy so be careful. I love the fact that im now only paying £450 a year though haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest royboy820 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 good advice mate ill get onto it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fri3ndly Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 but how are the autos? ide never use it in heavy traffic just for fun and i only live 20 seconds away from miles and miles of back roads, i live in the suburbs. so the comfort of an auto wouldnt be a thing i would want.. ive drove a few autos, 3 series, volvo s60, c class compact, merc ml nothing with the grunt of a supra though... just personally like manuals, feel more connected to the car and more involved all the other usual stuff lol sorry, yes your right elephant wont cover mods but i think i can survive a year without modding... i hope lol I may be biased and I have never owned a manual Supra - but I love the twin turbo auto. It's got a reputation for being one of the best auto boxes ever made, the kickdown is spot on every time. It does not take the fun out of driving at all, it just gives you a chance to concentrate on the road a little more rather than changing gear. The shifts are very smooth and if you have your foot to the floor it will always shift at redline. I would love to drive the manual too, don't get me wrong, I would just personally prefer the twin turbo auto over the manual n/a :-) Good luck with your search - my advice with regards to insurance is use Admiral (I know they are pretty much the same company as Elephant). I used them when I was 21 with my last Supra, now using them being 24. I put my wife down as a named driver and my insurance is £700 per year fully comp (no mods). With exhaust, air filter, respray etc it was only £850 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezzler Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Prety sure Elephant won't cover any performance mods. So you need to be carefully of that All my mods are declared with elephant, no problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest royboy820 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 thats strange elephant hammered me with the mods too my r32 hyundai coupe calibra and 206, ive used the admiral/ elephant company alot and my mums down as a named driver for........ just incases im glad youve posted fri3ndly, your points very helpful. the only real way to settle this is with a test drive of both... does anybody know much about racetech cars uk, reason for asking is they have 2 supras im interested in?? ive dealt with ktc via a friend and after seeing the showroom/forecourt/after sales and prior to sales i think a wide berth is necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezzler Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Personally, I'd only buy a car from another member or Jurgen If Racetech have a couple of cars you're interested in, then go take a gander and get a test drive to see how it fits at least. There have been a lot of cowboy car traders floating about over the years, be cautious and try not to get too caught up in the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest royboy820 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 thanks pezzler,its like a whole new world this import jap scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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