Si_s Supe Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 This week is the 1st time I've really driven the Supra in the wet since I bought it. I have a little Fiesta as a daily so the Supra is my toy. I've always been impressed with the grip levels in the dry and all this week I used the Supra for my drive to and from work, taking it as a good chance to switch the slip control off and get to know the car in the wet. Got more and more at one with it and started to learn its limits. Anyway, tonight I decided to go to Shell and top up with fuel for a trip to the in laws tomorrow. Pretty crappy weather, slip control ON, driving through a 30 zone at 30. Got some prick in an Astra van right on my back bumper. Never being one to speed in 30 & 40 zones, I bide my time knowing we're approaching a national speed limit and hold the car at 30 in 3rd. Get to the national speed limit and open up! Car slowly builds speed through 1st turbo then comes the rush of #2 and before I know what's happening I'm fully broad side with my HIDs illuminating the trees on the other side of the road!! As it happens, I corrected with no drama and continued on my merry way...in 6th at 60! Really goes to show though...alway have your wits about you! I've had many RWDs before but to anyone with a TT as a first RWD, go easy! I'd be interested to hear anyone else's 'brown pants moments' so post away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si_s Supe Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 Wish I could've seen it from the Astra driver's view actually. Must've looked awesome, if a tad comical, seeing this Supra fly away then show a flash of drivers side bodywork before straightening up and carrying on like nothing had happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 always a scare the first time that happens! i jumped straight outta a 1.6 mk7 fiesta zetec s daily to my 581bhp supra! the back end went into murder mode within the first drive home and from then on i knew i had to treat this car with some serious respect! glad to hear you managed to save the slide mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darragh Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I think the traction control takes the fun out off it, I love when the back wheels light in the wet it is exciting however as you say if your not paying attention it can catch you out very quick , well done saving it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 A little wiggle is exciting, a full on sideways no way to control power slide into oncoming traffic isnt as much fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lude Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 as long as you know how to control the slide its great its when your not in control, or the car "surprises" you its not pleasant. i have removed the fuse, so traction controll is always off though, as i like it fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si_s Supe Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 Yep, I prefer traction control off too as I find it interferes too much. When it's on it's normally quite effective at stopping a slide but last night it was useless! The lights were flashing but had I not reacted like I did, I'd have been in a tree before the traction control knew what was going on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keener Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 My TT was my first ever high powered RWD car and I think I took it fairly easy but still lost the back end once (albeit on black ice) and put it in a hedge. Insurance paid up and all fixed but it taught me a big lesson with regards to respecting the car. I drove the same bit of road the other day and found that the second turbo cut in in exactly the place where I lost control. I drive much more carefully now in any kind of potentially slippery conditions be it wet, ice or even leaves/mud on the road. I don't want to be one of the 'crashed the supe' threads on here!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slicknick Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Yep I also had a close call last week, driving home on quite a greasy road and slowly accelerated out of a corner when the back end started stepping out, not normally a problem but the traction control came on so aggressively and cut the power to the rear wheels which threw the car in the other direction in a text book lift off overseer fashion. Thankfully there was plenty of room and no other cars. Needless to say its always off now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Sounds like a few people should invest in an RLTC set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slicknick Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I think RLTC or Slip control OFF is the answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollands Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 i have been using the wet weather to get use to how the car acts once it starts sliding so ive had several "brown moments" this week haha just when i think i can guess what its going to do i get on a different road surface and it reacts completely differently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Sounds like a few people should invest in an RLTC set up Sounds like most people (me included) shouldn't go anywhere near the 2nd turbo in the wet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 careful, now! don't let your "all original paint" comment come back to bite you [GRIN][/GRIN] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Just a reminder peeps, the roads are pretty greasy at the moment, I have had a couple of them moments, though not that bad luckily! Like you said must have been an EPIC for the Astra driver! Needless to say he won't be hanging on any Supra rear end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si_s Supe Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 careful, now! don't let your "all original paint" comment come back to bite you [GRIN][/GRIN] Oh now that would be embarrassing! I see your sig has changed!! Number 7 ay? RSP?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si_s Supe Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 As for RLTC...maybe another day! I think really, slip control OFF is the way to go. At least that way you should half expect the odd twitch here and there. Having it switched on gives a false sense of security! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 As for RLTC...maybe another day! I think really' date=' slip control OFF is the way to go. At least that way you should half expect the odd twitch here and there. Having it switched on gives a false sense of security![/quote'] When you go bpu you may want to consider it. It's only off on a hot day with the r888's on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I went to overtake a lorry the other day and put my foot down in 3rd. Once the 2nd turbo came in, the back stepped out a bit and I performed a pretty cool "drift" past the lorry. I managed to correct it really easily and I think it only happened as I was going over white lines in the middle of the road. I also have no TC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Oh now that would be embarrassing! I see your sig has changed!! Number 7 ay? RSP?? Nah it's a Gunmetal facelift NA aerotop......total impulse buy it was local and caught my eye. Should pop up a thread really.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si_s Supe Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 Gunmetal aero?...nom nom!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Have had about 3 brown pants moments in my car. First time I lost the back end I was traveling at about 15 mph in the rain and went over a small white roundabout. The car stepped out and I crapped myself but corrected and drove off suffering palpitations. The worst I have had, was when I was being a right tool, came to a large traffic light roundabout. Gave it beans having not slowed properly only to have a car pull out from a junction. I dabbed the breaks and the car spun completely out of control. I was heading towards the crash barriers on one side of the roundabout and so I turned the wheel hard and accelerated making the car spin instead of sliding. I narrowly missed half a dozen cars and was 180 to my original direction of travel. I had RLTC but even this couldn't save me from my own stupidity. Luckily I came to a stop with no injures or damage. There was no skill in this only luck and my wife was screaming at me and throwing things about in the cabin. I felt and was an idiot. I wont be doing that again any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si_s Supe Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 10/10 for admitting you're own fault! Many people try and blame something on the road but most of the time it is down to driver error! My episode included...the road was wet...I should have considered it before booting it! You live and learn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slicknick Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I went to overtake a lorry the other day and put my foot down in 3rd. Once the 2nd turbo came in, the back stepped out a bit and I performed a pretty cool "drift" past the lorry. I managed to correct it really easily and I think it only happened as I was going over white lines in the middle of the road. I also have no TC. If only everyone in this thread was as talented as you! Then we could turn our near crashes into cool drifts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si_s Supe Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 Lol. Take a look at this...makes my 'brown pants moment' fade into insignificance! I think his 'A' hole twitched somewhat!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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