chazuk Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Got a brand new competition stage 4 clutch and lightened flywheel, it's extremely heavy and makes the car judder a lot. Has anyone else had any experiences with this clutch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I have the exact clutch mate!! Yep its stiff like most I powered clutches.. I had a small ach in my lower right side of my back for a few days but it looses up a little.. Or Im just used to it now.. Juddering? Maybe apply more revs.. It needs some revs as it grips like a moe foe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 I have the exact clutch mate!! Yep its stiff like most I powered clutches.. I had a small ach in my lower right side of my back for a few days but it looses up a little.. Or Im just used to it now.. Juddering? Maybe apply more revs.. It needs some revs as it grips like a moe foe! I hope it gets a little bit softer then , Iam used to stiff but not a full leg work out at the gym after moving it around probably 12 ups and downs and leg is hurting :-) how many revs would you pull away at mate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 If its that heavy you can kiss your thrust bearings goodbye, heavy clutches premote crank walk on the 2jz, You dont read about it much in the uk but many peple stateside have had problems with it i read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco79 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I run a stage 4 with lightened flywheel on my na and I get no juddering and the pedal is lighter than stock! Just need to get used to the quick bite and it's a great setup! Use more revs tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastcar Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 yep i have stage 4 and flywheel it does judder if you dont give it plenty of revs as the clutch dosent like being sliped it more designed for drag start. i give mine just under 3 thousand revs and it stop the judder and move of smoothly. You might also get it on down shift aswell(i get it most in 3rd&4th) but that can be canceled out by heel and toe. As for the heavy bit i didnt find mine any more heavy then stock to be honest. It will get much better after about 1000 or so miles just needs to be run in gently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 How do you folk live with such clutches? I wouldn't put up with a juddery clutch on a single seater, let alone a road car. My triple plate drives exactly like a stock clutch, no judder, no heavy pedal, the wife drives it and never so much as notices anything odd about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Oh mine was killer stiff at first but was told this is normal. As i said I got lower back ach from have to push to hard at 1st but its loads better now. Deffo not as light as stock though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 i have a stage 5 on my track car and its as light as stock and takes of fine? not sure why it would feel heavy . they grip like hell so the judder may just require more revs. cant think why it would be heavy though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey. Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 It's stiff, judders, a bit of a pita but you get more used to it with use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Got a brand new competition stage 4 clutch and lightened flywheel, it's extremely heavy and makes the car judder a lot. Has anyone else had any experiences with this clutch? What power are you running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) I run a stage 4 with lightened flywheel on my na and I get no juddering and the pedal is lighter than stock! Just need to get used to the quick bite and it's a great setup! Use more revs tho I think the na competition clutches are different to the tt 6speeds ? yep i have stage 4 and flywheel it does judder if you dont give it plenty of revs as the clutch dosent like being sliped it more designed for drag start. i give mine just under 3 thousand revs and it stop the judder and move of smoothly. You might also get it on down shift aswell(i get it most in 3rd&4th) but that can be canceled out by heel and toe. As for the heavy bit i didnt find mine any more heavy then stock to be honest. It will get much better after about 1000 or so miles just needs to be run in gently. If it stays like that then I wasted 950 on a clutch I can not live with that I'd have to go for one of these tripple plates What power are you running? Not on the road yet but I do have a rather long drive way I can get 2nd gear ,maybe I just need to bed it in on a long journey when its finished , I guess power will be somewhere fom 550-650. Another thing I have thought of is doing the NA-6 speed clutch slave cylinder upgrade anyone done this is it much different? Edited December 3, 2011 by chazuk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_widow87 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Mine feels light as stock, do suffer abit of judder when pulling off though when i dont give i enough revs but can easily overcome that. All in all i think its a pretty decent clutch, feels pretty tough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 Mine feels light as stock, do suffer abit of judder when pulling off though when i dont give i enough revs but can easily overcome that. All in all i think its a pretty decent clutch, feels pretty tough! If we have the same clutch then there is something defiantly wrong with mine as its far from light as stock clutch :-( I installed it myself trying to think what I could of done wrong but its pretty straight forward . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastcar Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 If we have the same clutch then there is something defiantly wrong with mine as its far from light as stock clutch :-( I installed it myself trying to think what I could of done wrong but its pretty straight forward . I doubt you would have done any thing wrong i fitted mine myself and it fairly simple thing to do not to much can be done wrong. Did you tighten the pressure plate bolts in the corect order as shown in the manual? Did you grease the thrust bearing and spline shaft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastcar Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 How do you folk live with such clutches? I wouldn't put up with a juddery clutch on a single seater, let alone a road car. My triple plate drives exactly like a stock clutch, no judder, no heavy pedal, the wife drives it and never so much as notices anything odd about it. I dont like it to be honest Chris but it what i have for the moment. When i go single i will be swaping it out for a double or triple plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 I doubt you would have done any thing wrong i fitted mine myself and it fairly simple thing to do not to much can be done wrong. Did you tighten the pressure plate bolts in the corect order as shown in the manual? Did you grease the thrust bearing and spline shaft? Yup I did all that to the book , I do get a clicking noise aswell at the bottom of the clutch . I am going to do the na-6spd clutch cylinder upgrade it wont hurt its only £60-70. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 my stage 4 on my na rattles and judders, its got better as its worn in but not a huge amount. Judder city for these bad boys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I have the same setup on my single, probably done 3000 (ish) miles on it now. Almost zero judder now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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