stevie_b Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Some good posts here. I agree that we shouldn't make it a race to the bottom. If all employment packages are based on the lowest common denominator where the employees get given some money each month and told to sort themselves out, then we'll all be in for a more miserable working life. Once it was unheard of for companies to run pension schemes that the employer doesn't pay into. Now these are more and more common (I think employers above a certain size are obliged to provide a pension to employees, but it doesn't mean they have to chip in). As they creep into the private sector, will the next pensions debate in x years' time be about whether public sector workers get a pension that the government pays into at all? The term "non-contributory pension" means a pension that the employee doesn't pay into. These are the creme-de-la-creme. I can see that term being re-interpreted in later years to mean one that the employer doesn't pay into. As for the complaints about Clarkson to the broadcasting regulator, I imagine the majority of those are from people who didn't even see the programme. They heard about it down the pub or on Mytwitface, and "decided" it would be a good idea to be "offended". Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Some good posts here. I agree that we shouldn't make it a race to the bottom. If all employment packages are based on the lowest common denominator where the employees get given some money each month and told to sort themselves out, then we'll all be in for a more miserable working life. Once it was unheard of for companies to run pension schemes that the employer doesn't pay into. Now these are more and more common (I think employers above a certain size are obliged to provide a pension to employees, but it doesn't mean they have to chip in). As they creep into the private sector, will the next pensions debate in x years' time be about whether public sector workers get a pension that the government pays into at all? The term "non-contributory pension" means a pension that the employee doesn't pay into. These are the creme-de-la-creme. I can see that term being re-interpreted in later years to mean one that the employer doesn't pay into. As for the complaints about Clarkson to the broadcasting regulator, I imagine the majority of those are from people who didn't even see the programme. They heard about it down the pub or on Mytwitface, and "decided" it would be a good idea to be "offended". Pathetic. Good post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdistc Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Ah, "lives on the Isle Of Man..." does he? Most likely what I would do if I was earning millions! Hey, that's where I live too! How come I never see Jeremy about the place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Hey, that's where I live too! How come I never see Jeremy about the place? A Supra meet on the IOM would be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdistc Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 A Supra meet on the IOM would be good Definitely. Although I suspect most people "live" there for the same reasons. And I am, of course, referring to the TT every year... most definitely not IR35 type tax dodge situations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoaster Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I don't think the private sector get £245k pension & these are the people bringing in the economy. That would've sounded better if 73% of private sector business wasn't in the service sector, instead of manufacturing. Looks like that imaginary teacher is expected to live till they are 84 1/2 if they're a woman - not an unachievable feat these days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Less than 200 people apparently complained to the BBC about Clarkson's comments after the program. Since then people have heard about it on the radio, watched it on the news, read about it in the papers and the complaints have risen to over 21,000. Mindless Clarkson hating sheep every one IMO. Yours, Outraged of Dorset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus GTE Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 ****NWS CONTAINS SWEARING**** Have a watch - the anti clarkston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Less than 200 people apparently complained to the BBC about Clarkson's comments after the program. Since then people have heard about it on the radio, watched it on the news, read about it in the papers and the complaints have risen to over 21,000. Mindless Clarkson hating sheep every one IMO. Yours, Outraged of Dorset Also I've heard that the Unions involved decided to e-mail their members encouraging them to complain, bottom line is they are gutted the strike didn't have the impact they had hoped for and Clarkson taking the p**s rattled their cage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoaster Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Also I've heard that the Unions involved decided to e-mail their members encouraging them to complain, bottom line is they are gutted the strike didn't have the impact they had hoped for and Clarkson taking the p**s rattled their cage. Well I'm a member of Unison and haven't had such an e-mail, so I've e-mailed an official I know in Unison, who says that story is total rubbish! Perhaps you want to provide proof of this rumour? Unison's press releases here: http://www.unison.org.uk/asppresspack/pressrelease.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Well I'm a member of Unison and haven't had such an e-mail, so I've e-mailed an official I know in Unison, who says that story is total rubbish! Perhaps you want to provide proof of this rumour? Unison's press releases here: http://www.unison.org.uk/asppresspack/pressrelease.asp A bloke at work told me, I'll dig out his mobile number some time and your Union guy can give him a ring and try and track down the original source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Well I'm a member of Unison and haven't had such an e-mail, so I've e-mailed an official I know in Unison, who says that story is total rubbish! Perhaps you want to provide proof of this rumour? Unison's press releases here: http://www.unison.org.uk/asppresspack/pressrelease.asp Unison seem really upset, they want to send him to jail for telling a joke! “Clarkson’s comments on the One Show were totally outrageous, and they cannot be tolerated. We are seeking urgent legal advice about what further action we can take against him and the BBC, and whether or not his comments should be referred to the police." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoaster Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Unison seem really upset, they want to send him to jail for telling a joke! “Clarkson’s comments on the One Show were totally outrageous, and they cannot be tolerated. We are seeking urgent legal advice about what further action we can take against him and the BBC, and whether or not his comments should be referred to the police." A ridiculous over-reaction indeed, Unison and other union leaders ought to have known better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoaster Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 A bloke at work told me, I'll dig out his mobile number some time and your Union guy can give him a ring and try and track down the original source Sounds like you two fishwives ought to get on with your work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottC Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Unison seem really upset, they want to send him to jail for telling a joke! “Clarkson’s comments on the One Show were totally outrageous, and they cannot be tolerated. We are seeking urgent legal advice about what further action we can take against him and the BBC, and whether or not his comments should be referred to the police." Do they really have nothing more important to worry about right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Sounds like you two fishwives ought to get on with your work! Unlike many Unison members one day this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Unison seem really upset, they want to send him to jail for telling a joke! “Clarkson’s comments on the One Show were totally outrageous, and they cannot be tolerated. We are seeking urgent legal advice about what further action we can take against him and the BBC, and whether or not his comments should be referred to the police." [ATTACH=CONFIG]142493[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 A ridiculous over-reaction indeed, Unison and other union leaders ought to have known better. It was a chance for attention seekers to get on telly and in the press. Being sensible and rational didn't feature in it. Shame that in doing this, they undermine the people they are supposed to represent by chasing after personal gain. Sounds almost like the government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I always watch the One Show and watched the whole interview with him. If people actually watched the whole show it was totally clear he was having a laugh. He had made as silly comments about a whole host of other subjects that were on the show. In this instance it was clear that those complaining have taken the comments in isolation to the rest of the comments he made, or are simply complaining without watching the show. Clarkson even said the same thing when people tried to question him in the airport. I personally thought Clarkson came accross well on the show. He was funny, played up to his Top Gear image (which the show was trying to push) and made some very funny comments. Having seen it all, I am not even sure he agrees with the comments he made, I actually got the impression he didn't really care but when put on the spot he just took a jokey route. It just seems a lot of people have had labotomies around here. Good post - obviously watching the show, listening to the comments in context does made a bit of a difference as compared to the others who have been suckered into the media hype (as usual). for the record - don't agree with the strikes, country has enough problems as it is for these people to be adding to the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 "for the record - don't agree with the strikes, country has enough problems as it is for these people to be adding to the problem." Then you must prepare to bend over and take what's coming ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Then you must prepare to bend over and take what's coming ... that sounds like a threat, i wonder whether that is synonymous of their attitude too. as for me personally bending over - I would say the 50% tax that I pay is more than enough to support the many parasites that we have. if I had the choice rest assured I would pull the plug. about time the country gets tough - no one should be exempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 im looking forward to the next strike as my cafe was heaving all day ,thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 im looking forward to the next strike as my cafe was heaving all day ,thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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