Jake Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 ... but were they deliberate suicide bombers? Did they know they were killing themselves? How come they had return train tickets to Leeds? How come they put Pay And Display tickets on their car in Leeds railway station? Or did they think they had 10mins to get away after setting the timer on their backpack bombs at 8.50am? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRoy Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 no, I meant the original lot from Leeds, just wanted to know what they have to determine that they were terrorists and not just asian muslim blokes from leeds killed like other people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRoy Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 really Jake? interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 ... but were they deliberate suicide bombers? Did they know they were killing themselves? How come they had return train tickets to Leeds? How come they put Pay And Display tickets on their car in Leeds railway station? ah the plot thickens, didn't know that. god knows..... maybe it's because they're just nutjobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 no, I meant the original lot from Leeds, just wanted to know what they have to determine that they were terrorists and not just asian muslim blokes from leeds killed like other people? that just happened to travel down in a group together, and then spilt up, and were all then killed in seperate explosions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRoy Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I'm not saying they were not the bombers I just wanted to know what evidence we have that they were? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I don't understand what you're asking, Roy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRoy Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 LOL, I havnt paid much attention this week to this. I'm just interested in what evidence the police found apart from them being there that they were actually the bombers? Did they find anything in leeds etc. Sorry I should read the papers etc:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 How come they had return train tickets to Leeds? How come they put Pay And Display tickets on their car in Leeds railway station? Personally I think it's because they didn't want to attract attention... presumably if stopped they would've used the excuse that they were visiting for the day and then travelling back... a difficult excuse to argue if you haven't got a return ticket! Also about the car, apparantly there were several unused bombs left in the boot, presumably for someone else to pick up later... I'd certainly buy a pay and display ticket, wouldn't want the car to be noticed at all, let along towed away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Not sure the return ticket thing holds water* but I see what you mean about the Pay And Display thing. * On the other hand, why worry about saving a few quid if you know you'll be dead soon. I don't know, just thinking out loud really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 * On the other hand, why worry about saving a few quid if you know you'll be dead soon. lol, yeah I thought that too! I think that they were simply trying to act as normally as possible and didn't want to attract any unwanted attention... but you're right it isn't exactly convincing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 25, 2005 Author Share Posted July 25, 2005 it is partly racial steve as non white people are more likely to be muslim extremists. Very true but let's look at the guy who was killed http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1317545.jpg Hardly Osama is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 If you're asian looking you'd have to be insane to get on a train wearing a backpack at the moment! Damn....so I need to carry a briefcase now I had to complete Landing cards when I went to Guernsey this weekend..... IN MY OWN FLIPPIN COUNTRY.... We were made to feel very unwelcome during the entire weekend and lets just say that this was the first time I had experienced racism since my days in Glasgow (1998-1999)...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Apparantly they were low velocity bullets to minimise risk to surrounding people, that's why they needed to pump five into the bastard These are the type of stupid gun hoe comments that will eventually fuck up this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 We were made to feel very unwelcome during the entire weekend and lets just say that this was the first time I had experienced racism since my days in Glasgow (1998-1999)...... I'm sorry to hear that. Was that because you're English of because of your heritage? I seem to remember that there was ALOT of anti English sentiment in Scotland during that period and attacks on English went up by about 400% during that time. (By the way I'm Scots by heritage) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Would the Police of shot him if he was a white guy ????? Bet you guys will think twice about tanning yourselves when the sun comes out now..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I know we have trained armed officers BUT...we have a short history of having an armed police force (or SO19) and MOST of em lack operational experience in my view..maybe we should stick em all in LA for a few weeks as part of their training.. Arent our Armed Police being trained by the best? The MOSSAD..... Lets hope the UK doesnt turn into a millitary warzone like some other parts of the world where such tactics are being implemented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I'm sorry to hear that. Was that because you're English of because of your heritage? Cause of my looks mate...... Lets just say that I tended to hang around in groups of three and fours from then on...... Never had a problem in London (moved down here in 99) - however I am sure things will change for the worse.... Not only do I need to ditch my rucksack......I need a new wardrobe as well cause my poor dress sense (jackets) could get me killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Peace Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Oh fooking 'ell, leftie Green's playing the race card again..........'is it cause I'z black?' How's it going fella? Paul lol yeah not bad ya Rascist Tory he he. Yep I surrender..It did look like I was playing the race card...but in reality just wanted to spice this thread up..it was getting boring lol. On a serious note (SERIOUS FACE NOW he he) lets be honest here if the bloke was white...he wouldn't have got shot..lets not kid ourselves on that one..how many of the suicide bombers were 'IC1's' But what we have to understand is that if you are of Asian appearence you are going to feel a bit threatened or singled out..imagine if the shoe was on the other foot..what I'm saying (and have heard from one of the Muslim leaders on telly too) that some people not only are worried about being blown up but also being scrutinesed or harrassed by Police on account of them either being Muslim or of Asian/Arabic appearance.. I personally wouldn't feel particularly great if I was in that situation...its like when I lived on a Council estate as a kid and everytime the police stopped me in the street when i told them where I lived they would immediatley search me..that kind of thing...I'm not saying anything is right or wrong here but i can see a problem arising in society as a result. I know being a Copper isn't easy in this day and age (I wouldn't want to be one thats for sure I'd rather clean bogs tbh) but then I guess it was the same with the rascist nail bomber..I mean there was no-way he was going to be anything else but white...so theres the otherside of this arguement laid out I spose... Just hope they find these people as quickly as possible so that no-one else gets shot or harrased... Imi lol...yeah I have suspended my sunbeds till further notice as a precaution he he. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 lol On a serious note (SERIOUS FACE NOW he he) lets be honest here if the bloke was white...he wouldn't have got shot..lets not kid ourselves on that one..how many of the suicide bombers were 'IC1's' : There are plenty of 'white' Muslims in the world and to assume that none of them are extremists is completely ridiculous. It was his decision to run that got him killed, not the colour of his skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 To say that he was killed cause he was running is ridiculous. Apparently he was beaten up a week earlier by 6 chavs. He was being chased by the PLAIN CLOTHED policemen, he thought they were Chav group number 2 so legged it. Plain Clothed officers then had the stupidity to report the guy to the Armed police as a "SUICIDE SUSPECT" - Armed police being trained by the eliminator group Mossad excercised their traning program "SHOOT TO KILL" and that resulted in the poor electrician getting killed. WELCOME TO TRIGGER HAPPY BRITAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 25, 2005 Author Share Posted July 25, 2005 It was his decision to run that got him killed, not the colour of his skin. What this man said. Totally agree I didn't know about the chav attacks tho. Where did you read that? At the end of the day if a group of people wave guns at you and shout "police stop" after all that has gone on you bloody stop mate! Sorry but this racism bullshit really annoys me. If it had have been a black policeman that shot a white man, would we be having the same discussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I didn't know about the chav attacks tho. Where did you read that? At the end of the day if a group of people wave guns at you and shout "police stop" after all that has gone on you bloody stop mate! ITN NEWS in the morning. some guy Alastair something was interviewing a goverment official and a brazillian news reporter in london. No one said that they were SHOUTING HIM TO STOP RUNNING OR ELSE HELL BE SHOT....where did you get that from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 25, 2005 Author Share Posted July 25, 2005 Off the top of my head. I doubt very much they were just quietly chasing him so they could shoot him. My guess is that they were pretty much vocal in the fact they wanted the fooker to stop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Off the top of my head. I doubt very much they were just quietly chasing him so they could shoot him. My guess is that they were pretty much vocal in the fact they wanted the fooker to stop! Steve....number 1, he aint no FOKKER.....so no need to disrespect an INNOCENT VICTIM who was MURDERED due to sheer INCOMPETANCE on the part of some overreacting idiots who unfortunately misinformed the ARMED Police into taking decisive action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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