Jamesy Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I think its a huge shame and very sad indeed. I've never had depression and dont every wish it and dont claim to know what its like but i do understand it academically and from people ive known and attempted similar. Its a disease and a blackness over your life and every thought you have. To say its selfish is just a lack of knowledge and understanding of it. The last thing a person in this situation would want is attention. Imagine how utterly lost you would have to be that your closest family isnt enough to counter the darkness. Its a battle, not a selfish thing. You wouldnt say to a diabetic, come on you, just get your blood sugar in order will you! The same is impossible to do if your neurochemistry and hard-wiring is out of whack. There is a huge huge stigma over this and we should be more accepting and try to be understanding instead of making snap judgements. Saying that we dont have all the information and are still guessing. Thoughts to his family. RIP. top post. depression is potentially deadly and NOT to be under-estimared. my mum had depression for 13 long years (rip ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 ... feel for his family - suicide leaves so so so many unanswered questions and thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 You're presuming he had depression. You might be right but there are a whole host of alternatives. For example something or someone pushed him over the edge or an accident, I.e sex play or just DIY gone wrong.. I didn't presume he had depression - no one knows the circumstances. I was responding more as a general post to someone who said they had no sympathy for anyone that commits suicide. I don't think for a second it was DIY that went wrong but I'm sure we'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 As a Welsh Leeds United fan I was gutted to read the news yesterday. In one way I am hoping that it comes out that he was suffering from depression as that then could give us all (his family included) answers as to why he did it. As I know very little about depression, I wonder if some of the more knowledgeable member's could answer a question. Can you hide the symptoms of depression all the time? It would seem as if all his friends and work colleagues had no idea he was suffering with it if in fact he was. Could this be possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 just saw an interview with gary mcalister good friend and was with him on saturday , he had no idea there was something wrong , so if it was depresion he hid it very well . still feel sad today , cant believe it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 You never know what hides behind a forced smile... Of course, we're making assumptions. We all could be way off the mark, all we know is that the world lost a great professional and a very popular man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 such a shame this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I think its a huge shame and very sad indeed. I've never had depression and dont every wish it and dont claim to know what its like but i do understand it academically and from people ive known and attempted similar. Its a disease and a blackness over your life and every thought you have. To say its selfish is just a lack of knowledge and understanding of it. The last thing a person in this situation would want is attention. Imagine how utterly lost you would have to be that your closest family isnt enough to counter the darkness. Its a battle, not a selfish thing. You wouldnt say to a diabetic, come on you, just get your blood sugar in order will you! The same is impossible to do if your neurochemistry and hard-wiring is out of whack. There is a huge huge stigma over this and we should be more accepting and try to be understanding instead of making snap judgements. Saying that we dont have all the information and are still guessing. Thoughts to his family. RIP. Fantastic post! My mum suffers from depression, it's hard to explain but it I difficult from the outside to help a problem which is inside someone else. You can aid them but only they can control it. This thread has prompt me about a good friend, I must get in contact with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozz Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 had a dibate with our lass about this,i personaly have no sympathy for him as he hung himself and has obviously has left his poor family and friends in bits.I can honestly say that no matter how bad things got i wouldnt do that to my family. Am i wrong? Very wrong IMO, you cannot appreciate (assuming depression) just how dark it gets, no matter how many close family and friends you have around - that can actually make it worse. I can pretty much guarantee if you had serious depression and didnt get help/medication you could do this to your family. I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby a Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Obviously he must have had some serious personal problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Sad news. I found myself shocked by the news as it was announced on the radio. I always admired Speed as a player and he always seemed to be the perfect Professional on and off the pitch. My thoughts go out to his family at this sad time. On a football front, the greatest honour I can give any player is that having seen them play I hoped that one day they would sign for the team I support, Gary Speed was one of those players. If it is depression, I feel for his family, I have done alot of training to help people who suffer it and it really can be a life breaking illness. So young, a real shame. RIP Gary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 The final picture: Gary Speed poses with a fan at the BBC studios in Salford as he recorded Match of the Day. Hours later he was found dead Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066812/Gary-Speed-dead-Last-picture-Wales-manager-hours-committed-suicide.html#ixzz1f2Tpfn3t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getrag Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Thanks. Regarding depression alone, can you hide it from your friends? Absolutely. Especially guys with a healthy dose of denial thrown in there and given its social stigma. Closest loved ones and family are more likely to know - and we havent heard from his. Not that I'd want to, they should be allowed to grieve in private. Will be interesting to see what the police investigation shows, apparently he had dinner with friends beforehand. Who knows that goes on in peoples lives and heads, we'll probably never know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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