Getrag Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 http://www.gerbergear.com/ Plus the armory and canned goods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I have a couple of these http://www.gerbergear.com/Essentials/Tools/EVO-Tool_22-41771 http://www.gerbergear.com/Military/Tools/Diesel-Tool_22-01545 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Awesome. People always think short term though, I intend to stay around for a while so would be thinking more about renewable energy and some way of getting a fortressed farm up and running! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Is that even legal in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Not to carry, unless you have a reason for doing so (can't think of anything valid though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Is that even legal in the UK? probably not, I got bought them for all the work around the house etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Thats cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Awesome. People always think short term though, I intend to stay around for a while so would be thinking more about renewable energy and some way of getting a fortressed farm up and running! Ahh, I've also thought long and hard about this, and I don't think anything land based will ever work. Either you'll be surrounded by hoardes of the undead until they are so great in number they pile up against the walls and can climb up and over, or you'll be fighting humans off who will destroy your defences just trying to get in. My idea is some sort of large sea-going barge, like the one Timothy Spall has, but with modifications for sail power and solar energy / wind energy for powering a de-salination plant. Fish and birds is the diet, with shorebound foraging for other things. Small vegetation can be grown onboard too. Depending on its sea-going abilities, and the weather, heading for an uninhabited Pacific island seems the best long term plan to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I think we'd need to know about the 'condition' before committing. It may not follow the Hollywood principle, it may just be an airborne pathogen that causes reanimation, and it may be that the scientists find a cure after a few months. So you go off in your barge to find that one of the birds you end up eating gives you the virus, and you're too dead to make it back to shore to get the now readily available antidote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Ahh, I've also thought long and hard about this, and I don't think anything land based will ever work. Either you'll be surrounded by hoardes of the undead until they are so great in number they pile up against the walls and can climb up and over, or you'll be fighting humans off who will destroy your defences just trying to get in. My idea is some sort of large sea-going barge, like the one Timothy Spall has, but with modifications for sail power and solar energy / wind energy for powering a de-salination plant. Fish and birds is the diet, with shorebound foraging for other things. Small vegetation can be grown onboard too. Depending on its sea-going abilities, and the weather, heading for an uninhabited Pacific island seems the best long term plan to me. But zombies can walk under water so they would still be able to get to you! Though if like you said built a sea barge then that would be good as they don't move too quickly! I was thinking of building something underground, that way it is discreet. Almost like a full size bunker with enough space to go running in etc to ensure I keep fit & build my strength. Access would have to be something which has a fail safe so if they find out how you get in then you need to stop them, maybe do a hidden door but when you do get into the door you are presented with 10 doors (that way from the outside they can't see where you went). Have traps sent up on the doors, CCTV & also remote controls to be able to activate the traps even when you are not in base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Another problem; all this stuff will need to be jerry rigged from limited resources, probably no power and pretty quickly with constant threat of attack! How about a farm in the middle of the largest flattest area of land you can find - then you just need a telescopic scope on a high powered silenced rifle, and LOTS of ammo. A few trustworthy people to take watch shifts and hopefully someone knows a bit about farming and making your own stuff. I doubt you'd ever reach a situation where you have death coming from 360 degrees in large enough numbers to thwart an escape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dim Sum Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 But zombies can walk under water so they would still be able to get to you! Though if like you said built a sea barge then that would be good as they don't move too quickly! I was thinking of building something underground, that way it is discreet. Almost like a full size bunker with enough space to go running in etc to ensure I keep fit & build my strength. Access would have to be something which has a fail safe so if they find out how you get in then you need to stop them, maybe do a hidden door but when you do get into the door you are presented with 10 doors (that way from the outside they can't see where you went). Have traps sent up on the doors, CCTV & also remote controls to be able to activate the traps even when you are not in base. Or just buy one of these and be mobile. http://zombiesafehouse.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/z1521_web1.jpg http://zombiesafehouse.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/z1521_web2.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 But zombies can walk under water so they would still be able to get to you! Though if like you said built a sea barge then that would be good as they don't move too quickly! . Ahh, but there would not be enough to pose a threat. That's where World War Z goes wrong in the story about the chinese subs, where one sets down on the sea bed and is instantly set upon by underwater zombies. Its said you can fit the entire population of the world into Texas, so even if the whole world went Z and they all walked into the sea, they would be very sparsely spread out. Good point from TBourner about catching the virus though. The boat would be stocked with supplies so waiting just offshore to assess the situation before commmiting to a solitary life on an island would be a good strategy. The beauty of a boat like I describe is that it is a "sleeper." It can be modified by just its owner without raising suspicion, all he has to do is get to it intact when the outbreak happens. No one in the harbour would know about its true purpose. An underground bunker would be known to the builders that built it, they would be on their way there trying to save their own families and willing to kill you and yours to get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Another problem; all this stuff will need to be jerry rigged from limited resources, probably no power and pretty quickly with constant threat of attack! How about a farm in the middle of the largest flattest area of land you can find - then you just need a telescopic scope on a high powered silenced rifle, and LOTS of ammo. A few trustworthy people to take watch shifts and hopefully someone knows a bit about farming and making your own stuff. I doubt you'd ever reach a situation where you have death coming from 360 degrees in large enough numbers to thwart an escape. No I'm talking about building stuff now, for the future, just in case. That's the beauty of the zombie story, with vampires and werewolves its all based in the supernatural but the whole point of a zombie outbreak is that its never happened before...until it happens so it could be real...at some point. Although I did see something that said there couldn't be a pathogen that could kill and spread so quickly as to infect the whole world in a few days. They either kill quickly but don't spread, like Ebola, as you can't make it to the airport without your eyes bleeding onto the floor, or they spread worldwide but don't do very much like the common cold. Also if I'm running with my non-supernatural undead method, a zombies muscles still need the same oxygen carrying blood cells to work, so no underwater Z's and also a shot to the chest or an body-destroying explosion will take out zombies, without having to rely on headshots only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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