Graham1984 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I found a company that does rear mounted turbo http://ststurbo.com/ just wondered if anyone else had seen this stuff and their thoughts on it. Seams like a lot of 350z drivers and corvettes use them and get good results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supradibbs Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 WHy would you want to rear mount on a Supra, you realize you will have to run all the IC pipes to the back of the car thats just for starters, rear mount kits are designed for cramped engine bays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 I was just looking out of interest not that I was going to at all and wondered who else had seen all this stuff as like you said front mount is standard due to room in the engine bay compared to the cars that run this. Just was something I had never seen before until dude showed me the other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 WHy would you want to rear mount on a Supra, you realize you will have to run all the IC pipes to the back of the car thats just for starters, rear mount kits are designed for cramped engine bays 1) No need for Intercooler 2) No underbonnet heat 3) No need for a manifold 4) It can be completley hidden unless really looked for Weve just done this on a peugeot it is hilarious, you cannot tell with the car on the floor unless you lay on the ground and there is no lag as the engine is still an NA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 I am so glad you came along dude as I had the feeling you "may" be able to explain and shed a tad more light on it than myself who's only knowledge is 1) Cars need fuel now and then 2) Old people are worth 45points for mowing them down 3) Gingers are worth more especially if they are in herds then a predetermined multiplier comes into effect. I now advise anyone to ask dude on said subject even though I did amazingly get dressed all by myself today but sadly his pictures bear more weight of knowledge than my t-shirt that is actually on the wrong way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I had cornflakes for breakfast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 On their own or with milk??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 This thread is going nowhere. Back on topic, or it's getting locked. Morning all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 Back on subject though someone price it up and see what cost would be as everyone seams to know what a NA-T or NA-TT costs roughly but how does this stack up against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Back on subject though someone price it up and see what cost would be as everyone seams to know what a NA-T or NA-TT costs roughly but how does this stack up against it. You raised the question, why don't you price it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 I would but frankly I have no idea about all the stuff needed where to source etc so will leave it to someone way more intelligent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I would but frankly I have no idea about all the stuff needed where to source etc so will leave it to someone way more intelligent. There are bolt-on NA-T kits available, versus a rear mount kit that would need custom pipes and brackets fabricating. Which do you think would be easier and cheaper to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 It was more that dude was itching to do this to a supra and it certainly seemed different. As far as doing this or NA-T/TT that is all a long way away due to funds and if I feel like getting round to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee from China Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 1) No need for Intercooler 2) No underbonnet heat 3) No need for a manifold 4) It can be completley hidden unless really looked for Weve just done this on a peugeot it is hilarious, you cannot tell with the car on the floor unless you lay on the ground and there is no lag as the engine is still an NA. Sorry to be a bit thick - but how do you mount a turbo on an engine without a manifold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackin_n_bashin Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 It doesn't mount to the engine tee, just bolts somewhere under the car, and takes a feed from the exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I would love to do this to my S4, I had been checking out SC kits for it but they were all 20k and not really worth it but this looks like a real option to bbe able to run a nice reliable 6-7psi on a stock S4 4.2 which should net about 440-450hp? I've seen it done on a pug 205 and on a corvette, how would water on the turbine housing work? wouldn't it suffer thermal shock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 That was one of the things I wondered. Talk to dude who posted earlier as he is the man in the know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee from China Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I always thought there was two turbines in a turbo with one driven by the exhaust which then drives the other and pushes into the inlet side so cant figure out how one mounted in the exhaust would work. Would the heat not be directed on to the toeboard where the pedals are or the transmission etc? If it is so good why has no manufacturer used this before now? Does sound interesting though if no manifold,intercooler etc to have to be used - twin turbo V8s etc - ftw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGB Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Yeah Dude showed me the 206 as well, I was like WTF?!? but It does make sense in a lot of ways. The only complicated bit about the system is probably the oil delivery and return (need to use a remote pump). But then Dude mentioned that you can get oilless Turbo's.... There are loads of video's on Youtube with "rear" or "remote" mounted turbo systems... Pretty funky really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee from China Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Just looked at that site and at first I took the OP was talking of a rear mounted turbo as in one facing the bulkhead as opposed to the normal forward facing position - but seems now they are mounted at the rear in the exhaust not even in the engine compartment! Not sure I like the idea of two red-hot turbos either side of my fuel tank though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 I never knew about the oil less turbo's but even getting a pump or something could be sorted surely. Seams a good idea in some way for us Na folk as you do not need some of what were the most important bits. Dude told me not to go Na-T and with my desire to be different I would not totally dismiss this as a option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGB Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Just looked at that site and at first I took the OP was talking of a rear mounted turbo as in one facing the bulkhead as opposed to the normal forward facing position - but seems now they are mounted at the rear in the exhaust not even in the engine compartment! Not sure I like the idea of two red-hot turbos either side of my fuel tank though! The Turbo wouldn't get red hot though. Sure it would get hot but not as hot as it would take to ignite petrol any easier than a normal exhaust would.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Just looked at that site and at first I took the OP was talking of a rear mounted turbo as in one facing the bulkhead as opposed to the normal forward facing position - but seems now they are mounted at the rear in the exhaust not even in the engine compartment! Not sure I like the idea of two red-hot turbos either side of my fuel tank though! why would they be hotter than your exhaust? thats whats heating them up, plus they'll be in open air, if not a little ducted to keep road cr@p of them. My only concern would be the intake tubing and where it would route back and the filter for the intake on the turbo, would need to be fed from elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee from China Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 why would they be hotter than your exhaust? thats whats heating them up, plus they'll be in open air, if not a little ducted to keep road cr@p of them. My only concern would be the intake tubing and where it would route back and the filter for the intake on the turbo, would need to be fed from elsewhere Dont know really just thoght that a turbo runs hotter that an exhaust! Looking at the pictures on the site I cant see any intake just turbos and oil feeds - so still cant work out the mechanics of the instalation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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