Branners Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 So, wandering along past the London Finsbury Circus park yesterday and wondered if anybody else thinks the anti-capitalist protestors at St Pauls and Finsbury Circus should just pack up and go home and are just living cheap in London now and not actually making much of a point? Is is that just me that thinks that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 which was, just like the bankers bonus, payed for by YOU,.. the little people> Yep, clear up and go home dirty hippies. I'm with you JB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Yes & No JB. Whilst I agree with them, setting camp in St Paul's might not have been the best idea. Though saying that it was a place which would have got the most impact & coverage too. Problem is how else do they put their point across? Do we just still back & do nothing, something we seemed to be extremely good at IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I disagree with the whole thing now its been exposed the majority didnt actually stay at St Pauls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Yes & No JB. Whilst I agree with them, setting camp in St Paul's might not have been the best idea. Though saying that it was a place which would have got the most impact & coverage too. Problem is how else do they put their point across? Do we just still back & do nothing, something we seemed to be extremely good at IMO. What has is changed though, except that two perfectly respectable and God loving priests have had to resign from St Pauls as they blame themselves for the hippy invasion closing down St Pauls. The capitalists are still doing everything they have done before, the world markets are still up and down like a yoyo and all I see is the suits walking past shaking their heads and the grungies watching the suits and shaking their heads. Perhaps I missed it, but what did they actually expect to get out of this. And I mean the exact outcome they expected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdistc Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Mate, I don't expect to understand much of what happens in the world these days. Frankly, I think a lot of people just want to express their dissatisfaction with everything going belly up even if they don't have either a forum for it or a coherent argument about their reasons. My personal view is that the world's economy has become so convoluted and corrupted that it's slowly destroying itself, but in order for us to make the hard decisions to rectify things we need to be in the "rock and hard place" - purely because we don't like making (expensive, unpopular, socialist-leaning) decisions for the long-term best. And because the people in positions to make these decisions are the ones who have most conflict-of-interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 What has is changed though, except that two perfectly respectable and God loving priests have had to resign from St Pauls as they blame themselves for the hippy invasion closing down St Pauls. The capitalists are still doing everything they have done before, the world markets are still up and down like a yoyo and all I see is the suits walking past shaking their heads and the grungies watching the suits and shaking their heads. Perhaps I missed it, but what did they actually expect to get out of this. And I mean the exact outcome they expected? The way I see it these people have no credibility. I wonder how many of them are on welfare? What they obviously fail to understand is that it's the only economic model that works. Look at Russia, which clearly hasn't recovered from Communism, 20 years on. Then there's China... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 It's not Capitalism that we are seeing , in capitalism a failed company or bank just goes bust , there is no too big to fail : something rises like a pheonix from the old . The public/taxpayer is being / going to be milked , paying off interest , that ever increases . The markets are fixed , they deal in non existant money and now so fast and complex ,I doubt any one individual actually knows what is happening as a big picture . We have entered dangerous times and it's reasonable that a few people point this out by demonstration . A Billion,a Trillion ,100 trillion ,the numbers are getting bigger . Highstreet names going under, massive job losses , pension failure, banks failing, whole countries failing ,and currencies failing - should we all sit back and watch celebrities ballroom dancing and phone in ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 It's not Capitalism that we are seeing , in capitalism a failed company or bank just goes bust , there is no too big to fail : something rises like a pheonix from the old . The public/taxpayer is being / going to be milked , paying off interest , that ever increases . The markets are fixed , they deal in non existant money and now so fast and complex ,I doubt any one individual actually knows what is happening as a big picture . We have entered dangerous times and it's reasonable that a few people point this out by demonstration . A Billion,a Trillion ,100 trillion ,the numbers are getting bigger . Highstreet names going under, massive job losses , pension failure, banks failing, whole countries failing ,and currencies failing - should we all sit back and watch celebrities ballroom dancing and phone in ? and with Greece and now Italy being esessntialy now owned/run by "former" banksters - where does it stop? no one elected these guys to run the EU, and no one sure as hell elected them to run these countries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 and with Greece and now Italy being esessntialy now owned/run by "former" banksters - where does it stop? no one elected these guys to run the EU, and no one sure as hell elected them to run these countries... Which is exactly why we should leave the EU IMO. It took our countrymen a great deal of strife to build the UKs political system, and because of this we have the crown to stop such Moguls from getting into power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 It's not Capitalism that we are seeing , in capitalism a failed company or bank just goes bust , there is no too big to fail : something rises like a pheonix from the old . The public/taxpayer is being / going to be milked , paying off interest , that ever increases . The markets are fixed , they deal in non existant money and now so fast and complex ,I doubt any one individual actually knows what is happening as a big picture . We have entered dangerous times and it's reasonable that a few people point this out by demonstration . A Billion,a Trillion ,100 trillion ,the numbers are getting bigger . Highstreet names going under, massive job losses , pension failure, banks failing, whole countries failing ,and currencies failing - should we all sit back and watch celebrities ballroom dancing and phone in ? I agree with what you're saying, but why get the church involved? Probably because the protesters are selfish and didn't think about the impact they might have. I would still argue that we have the best/fairest political and economical systems in the world. They are by no means perfect, but every other practiced method I can immediately think of has failed miserably or has no future (ie Chinas very corrupt 'capitalist' economy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Why are they there? I saw it on the news but got bored and went back to something with explosions in it. What are anti-capitalists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I would still argue that we have the best/fairest political and economical systems in the world. They are by no means perfect, but every other practiced method I can immediately think of has failed miserably or has no future (ie Chinas very corrupt 'capitalist' economy) Norway for example is more balanced and thought out Wasn't there some biblical thing with moneylenders getting a kicking ? - the church has always been involved with the economy from usuary laws to alms for the poor - seems an apt place to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I would pay good money for someone to set light to one of the tents at night and watch it spread. They'd look pretty stupid. Either that some one tip the police off to a bomb in one of the tents (ideally in the one where the owner is almost certainly a druggy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out. There is no God, but thats never stopped anybody so I'm with you. I did wonder about doing a London tunnel run and stopping by the camps at about 1am and let the chaps with the anti-lag have some fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 There is no God, but thats never stopped anybody so I'm with you. I did wonder about doing a London tunnel run and stopping by the camps at about 1am and let the chaps with the anti-lag have some fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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