Fifty Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Ello all Well, some time ago as you recall I got out my tools and did a plug change. Of course I broke 3 coil pack clips, as you do. Then transposed a wire which was promptly cut off by a guy at APMotors Plympton. Following 5 code 14 failures on the M5 and M6 and one trailer ride home courtesy of the RAC I ordered new WIRES and clips, and said guy soldered the new wires (terminal repair kit 82998-12440) and fitted a new clip - fine I thought (its been 2 months now!)end of story.... Oh no its failed again; the heat has haredened the wires where he soldered them and Im back to code 14 and an undrivable car. This job is possible to do plenty hacve done it on Supra.com and the wires are sold by Toyota to splice in. Can anybody help as to wh ythis has gone wrong and suggest the empirical way to solder 2 wires together and protect. There is just no way I can buy an engine loom so dont even suggest that. AP Motors cut the wire so I guess they are liable arent they?? 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I would have thought soldering would be fine, covered in heat shrink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Yes m8 so would I but its defo the join - just bad soldering I guess?? Anyone else - this little tw*t defies all normal laws its just a wire FFS. 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Have you tried resoldering the joints? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Embaressingly no; I dont posess a soldering iron and have 2 left hands I reckon the problem is the loom wires are probably not clean so he didnt flux it enough so the solder only stuck to the new wires ; does that make sense? Im really concerned about driving it like this though because of poetential for nasties like bore wash. The garage is 25 miles away. thx for helping btw; any more suggestions 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psymon Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Fifty If its a soldiering iron ya need I got 2, Im sure I could pop down and have a go at re-soldiering it for ya, its only 25miles away. Only prob is I could not make it till a week tomoorow at the earliest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Psymon u have PM thx very kind but I need the car soooo will try tomorrow to find someone competent (thatll be a challenge lol) 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psymon Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Good luck mate, hope you get it sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezabloke Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Yes m8 so would I but its defo the join - just bad soldering I guess?? Anyone else - this little tw*t defies all normal laws its just a wire FFS. 50 Fifty When soldering, make sure that both parts of the splice are heated through so the solder flows fully into the splice and not just round the surface where it can become brittle and break (a dry joint). If done correctly it should prove stronger than the rest of the cable. Once done, cover with either heat shrink (apply before splicing as its a tube) or self amalgamating tape which bonds to itself and provides a good isulated covering. Hope this helps, good luck Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Not sure if the stuff here is helpful or not (probably not) terminal repair kit 82998-12440 is mentioned near the bottom http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=183315&highlight=coil+pack+clips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Psymon - thx Dave - pretty sure wasnt done right; this is good advice thx There is no reason why this job shoulnt work is there? it seems so sensitive; the slightest drop in current kicks off code 14. 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Just sounds like the solder hasnt run through the cable properly. If you were a bit closer i would come and do it for you mate. Hope you get it sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Thx Steve, youre a bit far away in England lol Cornwall is a seperate nation lol 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Thx Steve, youre a bit far away in England lol Cornwall is a seperate nation lol 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I agree, this sounds like a dry joint. Just dripping some solder on two wires doesn't necessarily mean that they'll stick together, they need to be preheated before the molten stuff contacts them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Plenty of flux aswell, almost impossibe without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 Now fixed - I managed to drive one sick car the 20 miles to APMotors. Probably the most shit drive I ever had folk laughing and taking the piss lol Well looks like I'll have to show my ass on the market- as they oop North. It wasnt the dear lads wires it was 2 OTHER coil pack clips that was causing it. Fortuatously I had 2 new ones with me; 10 mins later no misfire. These really are little bastards arent they. The car now has major power, she must have been rough for a while. Mind you everything said about soldering is still correct. 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Glad you got it sorted mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 sir! 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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