Noz Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) Hi all. I've looked into this, and I just can't get my head around the set up. I can fully understand a turbo conversion and what's required, when Ryan finds his resistor pack and the turbo arrives Im ready to rumble. But my next plan is to get rid of the dizzy and run coils.... ...Does anyone know of anywhere who would be able to do this for me? And help me with what to buy? I've read threads, guides, I just can't find one I understand well enough to start buying bits for. Im running ultimate e-manage so I won't need a crack sensor. After my turbo conversion I want cams and I want to try and get proper core's rather than re-welds. If i can sort this out I'll take the risk. My aim is to get better mid range in my soon-to-be-boosted dyno curve. I want lumpy cams to help improve my mid-range when i get the turbo fitted. This may not be the easiest route to take, but it's one I wish to pursue. Any assistance appreciated. Edited October 31, 2011 by Noz (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 A full TT head assembly I would have thought. TT Harness (manual or auto depending what you have) Ignitor pack Not really sure what else but it sounds like a right pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 You'll still need a crank sensor regardless of what you use. As Scott said full TT engine loom, TT head (without the dizzy hole) ignitor pack. Has it been done before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Speak to Ryan. He did a custom coil setup on an NA-T on a job Mr whiffin had in for a tidy up. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?197098-NA-T-T04Z-Supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 That's not so bad then, I take it the N/A head has the coilpack bracket mounts then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Naa unfortunately not. Would need something making up but I couldn't see it being that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Naa unfortunately not. Would need something making up but I couldn't see it being that hard. Would be less hassle to just replace the head IMO. I've got a spare one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOSTA Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Give Matt a ring at AFR he done this on supra-ash's NA-T he used coil packs from a Mondeo v6 and it worked fantastic ;-) I'm going to be doing the same thing myself ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Late N/A' s had a crank position sensor, you can buy the late N/A oil pump, add the TT star wheel and the CPS and that's the crank trigger sorted. Fairly easy to add an external cam trigger. Add pencil type coil on plugs, and, assuming the ecu is configurable enough, set the CRIP etcetera and you are good to map. All it needs is time and money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 Give Matt a ring at AFR he done this on supra-ash's NA-T he used coil packs from a Mondeo v6 and it worked fantastic ;-) I'm going to be doing the same thing myself ;-) how much are you pushing from your stock compression mate? Late N/A' s had a crank position sensor, you can buy the late N/A oil pump, add the TT star wheel and the CPS and that's the crank trigger sorted. Fairly easy to add an external cam trigger. Add pencil type coil on plugs, and, assuming the ecu is configurable enough, set the CRIP etcetera and you are good to map. All it needs is time and money ...and a garage to take it to for fitting know anyone chris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOSTA Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 how much are you pushing from your stock compression mate? [/quote it can take 9psi on stock but i asked ryan to map it at 7psi as i wanted to be extra safe for now lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 What did you run at 7psi? Ryan said I should be hitting around the 9 mark, probably just over on high boost. Hope it doesn't go pop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOSTA Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 What did you run at 7psi? Ryan said I should be hitting around the 9 mark, probably just over on high boost. Hope it doesn't go pop! you should be fine mate. im sure somone on clubna-t was running 10psi on stock without any issues. i made 340.4bhp at 7psi but most people seem to make 375bhp with the same setup. at 9 or 10psi i think you will probs hit the 400bhp mark like. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 400bhp is my goal mate. just booked in uprated clutch and lightweight flywheel ot be changed in, so hopefully get that fitted next week. fitting emanage over weekend should be fun!! what ecu you running? wonder why you have lower hp on 7psi. did you dyno it before turbo conversion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOSTA Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 400bhp is my goal mate. just booked in uprated clutch and lightweight flywheel ot be changed in, so hopefully get that fitted next week. fitting emanage over weekend should be fun!! what ecu you running? wonder why you have lower hp on 7psi. did you dyno it before turbo conversion? i have the e-manage ultamate emu. ryan said its the autobox as he said it will be running around 360bhp at the engine. witch seems about rite. and i sopose it depends on how healthy the engine is aswell. but even at 340bhp it feels like i have twice the power now . ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 im so excited about getting it all sorted. im probably going to be giggling like a little girl. i probably would have saved time and money going TT, but theres no way id be as happy as if I selected it all myself and had the road trip to get it all fitted. im worried my gearbox will fall apart as i do drive pretty hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOSTA Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 (edited) I think at 400bhp you will be fine but I think at that power you will be close to your limit with the 5speed box. Edited November 1, 2011 by FOSTA (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I wouldn't hold your breath on that. You will break the box sooner or later, probably sooner if you drive it hard like you say. It just does NOT have the strength to cope with such an increase of torque! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 Thats what i thought. I was worried it would crumble. Parry has 420+ and hasn't had an issue, so im hoping il hold out at 400 for a while until I can find an R154 for sale. Which would be great if i could, drop the compression slightly and go for 600 with the highest possible compression, and maybe a little higher will probably need a stand alone at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 (edited) Thats what i thought. I was worried it would crumble. Parry has 420+ and hasn't had an issue, so im hoping il hold out at 400 for a while until I can find an R154 for sale. Which would be great if i could, drop the compression slightly and go for 600 with the highest possible compression, and maybe a little higher will probably need a stand alone at that point. Like I've said before a W58 is a hit and miss. Some seem to take the abuse much better than others. I can only put that down to the life its lead and how well its been maintained. There's the perfect R154 in the for sale's section. Its a proper drop in R154, not one you have to modify the shifter on and it will sit correctly unlike the MK3's. Not cheap but well worth it http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?257398-R154-manual-conversion-all-parts-bar-clutch-flywheel EDIT: This has now SOLD unfortunately! Edited November 1, 2011 by Kirk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 Yea i just asked him. bad mlife! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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