ManwithSupra Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Hi All, I just wanted to know if anyone knew the "braked" towing weight of a 2005 (Phase 2 model) Ford Focus 1.8TDCI Zetec Climate. Seems that Parkers dont have the information on it, and the only info i can get is related to non-braked. Can anyone help me? Regards Richard Stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Around 1200kgs http://www.uktow.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 Around 1200kgs http://www.uktow.com Cheers for that link that is helpful. But do you know if that limit is braked or un-braked? It’s unclear on that site. There does not seem to be any clear information anywhere, I really want something crystal clear, as i don’t want to be illegal. You would have thought they would have put that info with the car, I even phoned my local ford dealership but all i got was a vague answer which was about as useful as a chocolate teapot. I was told to check the VIN plate but that is not clear either, it lists like 5 different KG weights and the manual does not explain them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 This is what I have on my VIN. Q - 1875kg 4Q - 3375kg AN - 1040kg 23 - 1000kg I have no idea what these are... I'm guessing the last two are axle limits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I reckon that 1875kg is the maximum gross weight of the car including passengers and luggage etc. 3375kg would be the maximum train weight which includes the car (as above) and braked trailer. Therefore maximum braked trailer weight = 3375-1875 = 1500kg. The manufacturers always quote a higher figure than most organisations would recommend to tow in practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Towing a supra with a ford focus wont be fun, even a supra as light as yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 towing a stripped out supra with an s-type v6 jag was borderline... a focus would struggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 Towing a supra with a ford focus wont be fun, even a supra as light as yours. Hmmm thats what I thought, what sort of car should I be looking at? The focus is due for a change anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 I reckon that 1875kg is the maximum gross weight of the car including passengers and luggage etc. 3375kg would be the maximum train weight which includes the car (as above) and braked trailer. Therefore maximum braked trailer weight = 3375-1875 = 1500kg. The manufacturers always quote a higher figure than most organisations would recommend to tow in practice. Thanks mate, that cleared things up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Depends what you want from a car, Bigger the better for towing id have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I would have thought a 4x4 or estate car would be best and with a largish diesel engine probably 3.0 TDI. What about a land cruiser ? Or you could get Abz's Nissan Navara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 Depends what you want from a car, Bigger the better for towing id have thought. The thing is I need to use the car for work so need to keep it as "economical" as possible really, want to stick with a diesel. Dont really want to get a 4x4 but might be nice for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 What about a 5 series estate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 The thing is I need to use the car for work so need to keep it as "economical" as possible really, want to stick with a diesel. Dont really want to get a 4x4 but might be nice for a change. Get yourself VW Sharan 1.9TDI will be economical and can tow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Get yourself VW Sharan 1.9TDI will be economical and can tow He would be much better off with a larger TDI engine as he would be ragging it all day long and I bet he would struggle with hills !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 What would your budget be as this would help in determining any possible suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 What would your budget be as this would help in determining any possible suggestions Not much really as its something I dont really want to spend too much on, so lets say.. max £3,500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 (Q) is your vehicles maximum loaded weight. (4Q) is the maximum 'all-up' weight including loaded car and any trailer/caravan. The other two you don't really need as they are simply your max weight for front and rear axle loads. So, if you take your max loaded vehicle weight (Q) away from the all up permissible weight (4Q) you will be left with the maximum weight your car can tow. Bearing in mind a decent 4 wheel trailer alone is going to be heavy, plus even a stripped MKIV, it isn't going to be a suitable or legal tow car. You need RWD or 4 WD with a short overhang past the rear axle centreline to the tow bar. http://www.whattowcar.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Not much really as its something I dont really want, so lets say.. max £3,500 This might be a little out of your price range but I think it would be able to cope with pulling a supra. http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3183557.htm 6.0L V12 Twin Turbo Diesel 493 BHP and limited to 740 ft-lb (1000 nm) of torque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 This might be a little out of your price range but I think it would be able to cope with pulling a supra. http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3183557.htm 6.0L V12 Twin Turbo Diesel 493 BHP and limited to 740 ft-lb (1000 nm) of torque Only if Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 What do people reckon with one of these? http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201143424969918/sort/priceasc/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_80000_miles/engine-size-cars/2l_to_2-5l/price-to/4000/fuel-type/diesel/body-type/4x4/radius/1501/postcode/so534dd/page/1?logcode=p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I would have thought a 4x4 or estate car would be best and with a largish diesel engine probably 3.0 TDI. What about a land cruiser ? Or you could get Abz's Nissan Navara. Er dude, you might be talking about AdnanShah not moi How about something like this for Richard? Might be slightly under powered but will tow & be at least economical...ish. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201143425167657/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-to/4000/engine-size-cars/2-6l_to_2-9l/fuel-type/diesel/radius/1501/page/26/postcode/e143hr?logcode=p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Er dude, you might be talking about AdnanShah not moi How about something like this for Richard? Might be slightly under powered but will tow & be at least economical...ish. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201143425167657/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-to/4000/engine-size-cars/2-6l_to_2-9l/fuel-type/diesel/radius/1501/page/26/postcode/e143hr?logcode=p Woops lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Having done this just a few times i wouldn't tow a twin axle trailer with a 1000kg car on it + tools, spares, fuel, passengers etc with anything less than a decent sized 4x4 such as a Landcruiser Range Rover etc I used an 850 Volvo Estate once to help out a member with a broken supra and i wouldnt do it again no matter what the legal figures say. Bigger is better and one of these is what you want 4.2 TDi Towing machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Having done this just a few times i wouldn't tow a twin axle trailer with a 1000kg car on it + tools, spares, fuel, passengers etc with anything less than a decent sized 4x4 such as a Landcruiser Range Rover etc I used an 850 Volvo Estate once to help out a member with a broken supra and i wouldnt do it again no matter what the legal figures say. Bigger is better and one of these is what you want 4.2 TDi Towing machine Landrover Defender for me everytime... just pulls/tows anything... including a 3.5 ton water bowser... oops... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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