hadyn Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, i got banned from Logical Tuning for my comments on this thread: http://www.logicaltuning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2124&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 see what you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I think both sides have points, and 0-60 times are useless on track racing, and its about keeping the speed up around corners, not stopping and starting. FWD cars do make good track weapons and they're a lot safer to push around the corners than a RWD car which could break loose if you push too hard... not as much fun tho I doubt the ass kicking tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I just got completely confused by the points you were trying to make - if anything you made yourself look silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 What I don't get is that Haydn didn't really say anything controversial yet they banned him. God if the moderators behaved like that here, hardly anyone would be here, we'd all be banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 It's apparantly because Im elitist and slag off FWD all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Just look at the BTCC, thats all FWD and they seem to handle pretty well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attilauk Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Just look at the BTCC, thats all FWD and they seem to handle pretty well not as well as DTM though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 On shear laptimes you will gain more time round the track through more grip than more power... Tyres, brakes and suspension should be the priorities of anyone looking to lap quickly. And the right powerband for the gearing/track. outright power can help obviously, by getting you out of the corner and down to the next one faster...but it won't help more than the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I think you were just having fun winding them up weren't you? Everyone knows a cars performance is measured in many ways. That's what competitions like TOTB are all about. Different conditions, different setups (suspension, gearing yada yada) I'd say in general 30-70 performance is more interesting than 0-60. For city use brakes and handling are more important than raw power. It's all about the environment you want to play in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 not as well as DTM though... They're totally different spec racing series. His biggest advantage would be how light his car weighs, he could stop in less time as it'll be easier to scrub speed off a small car, plus he can chuck it around corners nicely. I think think a well driven RWD car should out perform a FWD one, with a decent driver behind the wheel. I think the problem is this guy may have took offence to you joking about his Saxo and commenting about its straight line performance... then after it seemd to turn into a slaggin match getting neither of you anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 What is Gaz's 7min.56sec car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attilauk Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 They're totally different spec racing series. I know mate but it was the closest RWD series i could think of at the time... to be fair some of the fastest cars going round the ring when i was there were golfs. although i think that has a fair amount to do with driver experience and the fact that the drivers dont care if they trash them. one thing i will say is i doubt very much a saxo has the potential to handle better than a supra could. the supra is a car designed to go fast, a saxo is a car designed to go shopping... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 to be fair some of the fastest cars going round the ring when i was there were golfs. although i think that has a fair amount to do with driver experience and the fact that the drivers dont care if they trash them. one thing i will say is i doubt very much a saxo has the potential to handle better than a supra could. the supra is a car designed to go fast, a saxo is a car designed to go shopping... Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Interesting bit of bollocks: anyway 0-60 and 1/4 mile times don't mean shit for on road performance, take a saxo VTS and BMW E46 325i for example, the BMW has a quicker 0-60 and a slightly higher top speed, the reason it is quicker 0-60 is because it has a lot more traction off the line, if you do a rolling start the cars are level until well over 100 mph, also remember power/weight should be calculated using the @wheels bhp otherwise it's incorrect the bmw transmission loss is 35-40% whereas the VTS is around 20% loss. i could bollock on for ages but noone would care. ------------------------- I can't help but feel that if a BMW lost 30-40% of it's power through the tranny, a few enginners in Munich would be hung by the scrotum in the public square. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Why bother argueing with people who drive Saxo's? They clearly know nothing of cars so I wouldn't bother spending time on a forum thats got them spouting off on, just be smug in the knowledge only they and there scutty mates love there crappy little shopping trolly's View the ban as a blessing Aaaah thats better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Having owned a saxo Vts before the supra i have to say the saxo would hold its against the supra on a small tight circuit but something like nurburgring with lots of straights and fast corners it would be eaten alive. I think that 0 - 60 mph is a bit pointless and is just for pub talk, in gear acceleration is more important and a better gauge of power IMHO would be 30 - 50mph or 50 - 70 mph or for the supra 70 mph + Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, i got banned from Logical Tuning for my comments on this thread: http://www.logicaltuning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2124&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 see what you think I can't see this thread now (got to page 5), what's the topic title so I can search it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 well im totally banned now and cant even read the forums, so im not much use at the mo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 The thread has been moved to the admin section by the looks of it: "Sorry, but only moderators can read topics in this forum." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Why have they totally banned you? because you mentioned the thread and linked it from this Forum?? What, do they just want a world of peace and harmony with no conflicting views? I thinks its what makes this forum interesting? Its good to have the occaisional shit stirrers!! Now...can anyone thinks who they might be on here? Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I can't see this thread now (got to page 5), what's the topic title so I can search it? Is it this one : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 why what does it say on that thread as I cant read anything on there now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 erm isn't there a reason there's a NWS section Hadyn! good job i don't have rug rats about the place! for those who might, think you might get a just need to get some beers and kick back to that oscar winnin performance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Not very much beats a BPU Supra around the ring, and almost nothing would beat one with big tubbies. A Saxo? lmao! ought to stay in tesco's car park late at night with an 18" sub blasting as the panels rattle like the percussion - when it belongs!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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