k9l3 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I can't beleave it this morning I on the way to work someone slamed on at a zebra crossing why people do that I don't know. and bang I went straight in the back of him in my sisters car bloody abs kicked in and went squidgy on the brakes so didn't stop as well as it could of. there goes my decat for now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Not good I'd change the title though as I assumed you'd picked up a hooker in your sister's car.. or maybe something incestuous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Your own fault I'm afraid bud. Live and learn Oh, people stop at zebra crossings to allow pedestrians, who always have the right of way, to cross. I'm not a fan of zebra crossings as I sometimes fail to spot them quickly enough when concentrating on the road. I've seen myself having to brake quite sharply due to spotting them a little later than I should have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 there are some morerons on the road.we must be vidgeulent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Oh, people stop at zebra crossings to allow pedestrians, who always have the right of way, to cross. So every motorist should do a full on emergency stop at a crossing? id say the other guy was more in the blame for dangerous driving or not paying attention if it was unsafe for him to stop in such a fashion. (unless somebody was already walking across) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 someone slamed on at a zebra crossing why people do that I don't know To let pedestrians cross the road? Was there anyone crossing or about to cross at the time? You've got to expect to stop at short notice when approaching these things. If no-one was crossing then you were just at the wrong place at the wrong time: chalk it up to experience and learn from it. It'll be very hard to escape fault having rear-ended another car near a pedestrian crossing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 So every motorist should do a full on emergency stop at a crossing? id say the other guy was more in the blame for dangerous driving if it was unsafe for him to stop in such a fashion. (unless somebody was already walking across) Of course not, they should be spotting it and making a judgement from a safe enough distance to react in a timely manor. I was simply saying that I have failed to spot them quick enough and had to brake rather sharply due to people waiting to cross. Regardless of what the person in front of you does you should ALWAYS have enough space between you to account for any eventuality. If you don't follow the 2 second rule then you are a fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Firstly, lol at the thread title as I thought you'd given someone a "portion" in your sisters car. Secondly, Zebra crossings give the pedestrian right of way and rightly or wrongly you are at fault for this accident. You were obviously too close to the car in front to stop effectively, as it would be if a child had run out between parked cars etc. However, I do feel that Zebra crossing should be removed and Pelican crossings be put in place where the lights will mean that cars and pedestrians can cross safely. I have on a number of occasions driven through a Zebra crossing when I have failed to spot someone stood waiting to cross. I have also jammed on when a pedestrian has stopped or turned near to the crossing with no intention of using it. There is a very fine line between being a good driver and killing someone on a Zebra crossing. I think you were unlucky personally but there is no one else to blame. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift_bear Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Firstly, lol at the thread title as I thought you'd given someone a "portion" in your sisters car. Secondly, Zebra crossings give the pedestrian right of way and rightly or wrongly you are at fault for this accident. You were obviously too close to the car in front to stop effectively, as it would be if a child had run out between parked cars etc. However, I do feel that Zebra crossing should be removed and Pelican crossings be put in place where the lights will mean that cars and pedestrians can cross safely. I have on a number of occasions driven through a Zebra crossing when I have failed to spot someone stood waiting to cross. I have also jammed on when a pedestrian has stopped or turned near to the crossing with no intention of using it. There is a very fine line between being a good driver and killing someone on a Zebra crossing. I think you were unlucky personally but there is no one else to blame. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9l3 Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 So every motorist should do a full on emergency stop at a crossing? id say the other guy was more in the blame for dangerous driving or not paying attention if it was unsafe for him to stop in such a fashion. (unless somebody was already walking across) Iv never had crash and I 25 it was raining and the person just got to the zebra crossing and the guy slamed on instead of carryin on and I would had plenty time to stop for her. I would of stoped ok in supra. and as I hit him whatever the matter its my thought in it. unlucky for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift_bear Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Iv never had crash and I 25 it was raining and the person just got to the zebra crossing and the guy slamed on instead of carryin on and I would had plenty time to stop for her. I would of stoped ok in supra. and as I hit him whatever the matter its my thought in it. unlucky for me did the person infront of you stop/slow down due to someone waiting to cross or start crossing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 did the person infront of you stop/slow down due to someone waiting to cross or start crossing? Yes - he said someone had just got to the crossing. it was raining and the person just got to the zebra crossing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Iv never had crash and I 25 it was raining and the person just got to the zebra crossing and the guy slamed on instead of carryin on and I would had plenty time to stop for her. I would of stoped ok in supra. and as I hit him whatever the matter its my thought in it. unlucky for me Luck has nothing to do with the distance between you and the car in front bud. No matter the scenario you should have an appropriate distance between you and the car in front. The general rule is 2 seconds as you should be able to react and stop the car at a rate that will stop you from hitting a braking car in front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainy Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I was under the impression that you only need to stop at a crossing if the pedestrian has started to walk across the road. If they are at the curb waiting to cross then you can drive on. Might be wrong not to sure now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9l3 Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 I do know the law on zebra crossing and how it works and I do know its my fault so anyone getting confused read my post properly I did not say it was anyone else thought just that people should not be silly and guy in that situation should of carryed on. and that shouldn't feel like they got slam on to stop. the thing is I was not close to the car when driving and because it happen so quick I was bit baffled how I did not stop quick enough. because it was wet didn't help and I think the brakes on the corsa dont work well. I use to have a x type and had very good brakes on it but the way the abs use to kick in weather stopping quickly or stopping and going over a bump on the floor would cause the brakes to go funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070339 195 Zebra crossings. As you approach a zebra crossing look out for pedestrians waiting to cross and be ready to slow down or stop to let them cross you MUST give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing allow more time for stopping on wet or icy roads do not wave or use your horn to invite pedestrians across; this could be dangerous if another vehicle is approaching be aware of pedestrians approaching from the side of the crossing A zebra crossing with a central island is two separate crossings (see Rule 20). That seems to say you don't have to let pedestrians cross unless they've started crossing, but I always give pedestrians right of way on zebra crossings. It's how I was taught when learning to drive, and I think you'd stand a good chance of failing a driving test if you fail to stop for someone waiting to cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I was under the impression that you only need to stop at a crossing if the pedestrian has started to walk across the road. If they are at the curb waiting to cross then you can drive on. Might be wrong not to sure now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070339 That seems to say you don't have to let pedestrians cross unless they've started crossing, but I always give pedestrians right of way on zebra crossings. It's how I was taught when learning to drive, and I think you'd stand a good chance of failing a driving test if you fail to stop for someone waiting to cross. That just shows why Zebra crossings should be done away with. If there is a pedestrian waiting to cross you are meant to stop to allow them. Imagine the game of chicken if you didn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9l3 Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 Luck has nothing to do with the distance between you and the car in front bud. No matter the scenario you should have an appropriate distance between you and the car in front. The general rule is 2 seconds as you should be able to react and stop the car at a rate that will stop you from hitting a braking car in front. mate you don't even know situation you just judgin . it was unlucky if it was case of me being too close I man enough to say I was close . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Imagine what the poor person crossing thought as a car screeched towards them...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 the thing is I was not close to the car when driving and because it happen so quick I was bit baffled how I did not stop quick enough. because it was wet didn't help and I think the brakes on the corsa dont work well. It's probably got poor tyres on it, some tyres that seem fine in the dry are truely awful in the wet.............try not to let it bother you too much I know I get that 'wierd' feeling following any bump! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I was under the impression that you only need to stop at a crossing if the pedestrian has started to walk across the road. If they are at the curb waiting to cross then you can drive on. Might be wrong not to sure now. It therefore means that the difference in being on time for a meeting or a murderer is the time it takes someone to walk a couple of steps. I always stop when someone is stood at the crossing and I have seen them. Like I said before, the margins for someone crossing or just stopping to chat to a friend in a high street cannot be legislated for even at 30mph. That just shows why Zebra crossings should be done away with. If there is a pedestrian waiting to cross you are meant to stop to allow them. Imagine the game of chicken if you didn't ^^^ As my mate said..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 mate you don't even know situation you just judgin . it was unlucky if it was case of me being too close I man enough to say I was close . To me it's just an unfortunate coincidence of being in an unfamilar car and coming across one of those ''oh s...." panick moments we all every so often experience..........if you had managed to pull up just short I dare say you would have sworn at the car and then realised it's no supra/Jag on the braking front and that it demands a bigger drop from the car in front than you are used to. Unfortunately you didn't get that opportunity, you have my every sympathy but the law and a select few on here will point out that you must have been too close given the car, conditions and your reactions (not calling them into question mind it's just one of the overall factors). Onwards and upwards it's a pain in the arse but no-one was hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 mate you don't even know situation you just judgin . it was unlucky if it was case of me being too close I man enough to say I was close . You were too close though, if you weren't the. You wouldnt have hit him. Why do you think braking distances are part of the UK driving theory test? It's to teach you how long, potentially, it can take you to stop. I used to question the reason for them not changing over the years, as the braking distances were calculated in the 60s or something like that, but given the amount of people that still don't allow appropriate braking distances I can see the reasons they haven't been updated.... As they aren't being adhered to anyway. You were unlucky in a way to be fair. People drive too close to the person in front all the time, I moan at my wife constantly for it. In this particular case you didnt take the necessary precautions and it bit you on the bum. On another day you would have been lucky. As I said at the beginning, take it with you and learn from it. This time it was a fender bender, consider yourself lucky in that instance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It could've been worse. At least it was your sister's car. Hand her back the keys and tell her to learn from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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