TubbyTwo Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I agree with that but, whilst I wouldnt go charging in Rambo style and start throwing people out of windows, I would enter MY house and get them to leave however I could. If its somthing I have worked hard and saved harder for Im not going to sit back and let some random wastes of life come and take advantage of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin.starr Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 My mate lived on a farm, he had a few travellers set up camp in one of his fields, they were there for a week, until he noticed equipment, machinery and his red diesel disappearing. His dad got rather pissed of, got the jcb out and drove over to the camp. He first asked politely for them to leave, they refused. So he proceeded in digging a 6' wide by 5' deep trench around there camp. He left enough space for them to get the caravans etc.. out and said if your not gone by the morning then im going to block you in so that your cant go anywhere. When he got up in the morning they had taken the hint and left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I agree with that but, whilst I wouldnt go charging in Rambo style and start throwing people out of windows, I would enter MY house and get them to leave however I could. If its somthing I have worked hard and saved harder for Im not going to sit back and let some random wastes of life come and take advantage of it. But the people involved have already done that. You would go in there saying, "Please leave", and they'd most likely say, "No thank you" and walk away. If there are more of them than there are of you, they'd probably assist you in exiting the house. The London Evening Standard has been running a story about a couple who were the victims of squatters. The victims offered the squatters £500 to just leave, but they declined (and IIRC asked for much more money before they'd consider it). It's not that people do *nothing*. It's that they would generally try peaceful means, and if/when that doesn't work then they'd do nothing apart from get the court wheels slowly grinding into motion. The majority of people on the internet claim they'd bust in there with a family-sized pack of whoop-a$$, but in reality they would probably just go down the courts route. Fair play to people like Abz. He was in that situation and was able to do something about it, without presumably getting legal repercussions from the squatters. I admire him for doing that. But most people wouldn't have the contacts, the means or the nerve to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Thing is that those offerning 500 pounds was a doctor and his pregnant wife (1 week before getting into labour), it might be different if you have few mates handy if you know what i mean. I would love to see them getting into turkish or iraq ppl owned house I just think that most english born andbred people are too nice even if they do not intend or think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Perhaps there is a need for the SQUATTER SQUAD. http://www.miamicountyymca.net/uploads/YMCA.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I agree with that but, whilst I wouldnt go charging in Rambo style and start throwing people out of windows, I would enter MY house and get them to leave however I could. If its somthing I have worked hard and saved harder for Im not going to sit back and let some random wastes of life come and take advantage of it. My friends cousin did that, he was told by the squatters that they had been living there for 3 years. But the people involved have already done that. You would go in there saying, "Please leave", and they'd most likely say, "No thank you" and walk away. If there are more of them than there are of you, they'd probably assist you in exiting the house. The London Evening Standard has been running a story about a couple who were the victims of squatters. The victims offered the squatters £500 to just leave, but they declined (and IIRC asked for much more money before they'd consider it). It's not that people do *nothing*. It's that they would generally try peaceful means, and if/when that doesn't work then they'd do nothing apart from get the court wheels slowly grinding into motion. The majority of people on the internet claim they'd bust in there with a family-sized pack of whoop-a$$, but in reality they would probably just go down the courts route. Fair play to people like Abz. He was in that situation and was able to do something about it, without presumably getting legal repercussions from the squatters. I admire him for doing that. But most people wouldn't have the contacts, the means or the nerve to do that. We was lucky to be honest Stevie, it could have been a whole lot worse & yes we were very lucky not to have any legal repercussions but we understood the risks. When it happened to me though I couldn't use the same approach, it was a women with kids & no matter how evil she was, I just couldn't do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanc Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Omg, just reading the news about squatters finally getting evicted but broke into another property yards away. But the thing that boggles my mind is how can they afford a Prius??? Taken from : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2034644/Hi-home-Evicted-squatters-leave-house-doctor-pregnant-wife-Hampstead--invade-new-property-300-YARDS-away.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creative Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Omg, just reading the news about squatters finally getting evicted but broke into another property yards away. But the thing that boggles my mind is how can they afford a Prius??? http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/07/article-2034644-0DC18C9B00000578-216_634x450.jpg Taken from : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2034644/Hi-home-Evicted-squatters-leave-house-doctor-pregnant-wife-Hampstead--invade-new-property-300-YARDS-away.html Its not like they have to pay bills, rates, or a mortgage or rent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9l3 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=138521&stc=1&d=1315255291 Simple but effective. [ATTACH=CONFIG]138521[/ATTACH] I might try this for central heating when it gets cold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyTwo Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Its not like they have to pay bills, rates, or a mortgage or rent... and all probably work for cash in Hand.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creative Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 and all probably work for cash in Hand.... work?? more like que every fortnight for their gov. issued hand out. sorry, stuff like this annoys me.... and nope I would go sort them out... but I know a man who would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyTwo Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 welcome to the UK! Supporting the workshy scummers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 work?? more like que every fortnight for their gov. issued hand out. I suspect you need to be registered on the electoral register to be able to claim benefits. I suspect squatters can't get on the register? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I suspect you need to be registered on the electoral register to be able to claim benefits. I suspect squatters can't get on the register? I am sure they would use a friends address... well one that has a house he is actually entitled to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I havent read all the thread because....well i cant be arsed lol. But i have a couple of Q's. Firstly, how is it they can break into a house and squat, but it doesnt constitute to breaking and entering? Secondly, whats to stop you re-breaking into your own house, changing the locks back, and taking there place as the squatter in your own home, therefore affording you the same bullshit laws that stop them from being prosecuted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 im no keyboard warrior or a hench rambo like dude, but if this happened to me id just get the boys down and tell the foookers to get out of my house or were gonna lay the smackdown on your pikey arses! booya! oh and would definitely have to get my sparring mates down from taekwondo to lend a hand too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 im no keyboard warrior or a hench rambo like dude, but if this happened to me id just get the boys down and tell the foookers to get out of my house or were gonna lay the smackdown on your pikey arses! booya! oh and would definitely have to get my sparring mates down from taekwondo to lend a hand too Oh realllllyyy.. I have one thing to say to that, My Dad is bigger than your Dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Oh realllllyyy.. I have one thing to say to that, My Dad is bigger than your Dad. Aha how dare you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanc Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I havent read all the thread because....well i cant be arsed lol. But i have a couple of Q's. Firstly, how is it they can break into a house and squat, but it doesnt constitute to breaking and entering? Secondly, whats to stop you re-breaking into your own house, changing the locks back, and taking there place as the squatter in your own home, therefore affording you the same bullshit laws that stop them from being prosecuted. Well when they break in they will obviously cover all traces. These people knows how to play the law and will normally put up a legal notice everywhere and usually have at least one person at home to make sure nobody breaks in. If someone tries to break in they will call the police Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Well when they break in they will obviously cover all traces. These people knows how to play the law and will normally put up a legal notice everywhere and usually have at least one person at home to make sure nobody breaks in. If someone tries to break in they will call the police Yep very true! The place we got back always had someone in, the neighbours who were spying told us only 2 at a time would leave so left around 4 people inside the property. They knew exactly what they were doing & when the police turned up they didn't even flinch as they knew what to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Well when they break in they will obviously cover all traces. These people knows how to play the law and will normally put up a legal notice everywhere and usually have at least one person at home to make sure nobody breaks in. If someone tries to break in they will call the police Whats then to stop you from saying the door was open and lock broken when you entered your own home? Surely then, for the love of god, the law would come down on your side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 Whats then to stop you from saying the door was open and lock broken when you entered your own home? Surely then, for the love of god, the law would come down on your side? It doesn't unfortunately. This is the reason I started this thread, I was honestly in disbelief as to what is going on in some areas of the country. I couldn't comprehend how strangers could enter your home and then claim rights to being in it. On the show I watched there were always a few of them in the house. You only saw 2 or 3 leaving at any one time yet when they eventually got evicted there were at least a dozen of them. My guess is that if you did "break in" they would film you on their mobile phone, or camcorder or whatever and then phone the police. The law can do nothing to help you and must follow protocol so if there was video evidence you would most likely be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjgreen3 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Surely having an intruder alarm fully set up and working would deter them, as if they get in (broken in, unforced entry) and the system was linked to the police then questions would have to be answered as why they are there? Why they can't turn off the alarm? Why they aren't the registered owner/tenant of the property? Also if they damaged the alarm then, criminal damage charges could be filed. Although a big guard dog trained to bite smelly hippy type people would be a cheaper easier solution! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 Surely having an intruder alarm fully set up and working would deter them, as if they get in (broken in, unforced entry) and the system was linked to the police then questions would have to be answered as why they are there? Why they can't turn off the alarm? Why they aren't the registered owner/tenant of the property? Also if they damaged the alarm then, criminal damage charges could be filed. Although a big guard dog trained to bite smelly hippy type people would be a cheaper easier solution! To be fair I think a run of the mill alarm would be fine as the squatters rights is based on empty uninhabited properties. There are a lot of loopholes to be exploited but I doubt there would be any doubt if an alarm was triggered. The trouble is that in most cases the buildings are being renovated or are unoccupied waiting on i dotting and t crossing with flittings etc. They are sneaky smelly hippies with a lot of options, so they will most likely steer clear of alarmed properties. Not to say they wont try kicking the door in to see if it goes off. Lockfast doors and a couple of angry rottweilers would make for cracking entertainment though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Things like this are awful. I have alarms that go to the police via a switch board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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