Neil-NA Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 There are no Squatters Rights in Scot's Law, if someone occupies your home, without your permission, it's illegal entry and the police will arrest and charge. I have no idea why that isn't the case in England:search: Because England sucks. I am seriously considering moving to Scotland, they way its run is 100 times better than England and i just loved the lack of health and safety whilst i was there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Health and whatnow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 some top results there.im not a violent person but would go mental and do everything in my powers to get them out would even pay for some nasty people to help out.it gets you mad how this country gone so down hill. the law does not give a damm about people who work hard and pay taxes,we do everything withing the law and just get laughed at.i heard on LBC radio station they going to change the law to make it easier to get people out of your house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoaster Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Is that right? I did have a quick browse last night and i noticed there was a difference between Scotland and England regarding squatters rights but I didn't realise they simply didnt exist for us. From Shelters website, here. I've dealt with it at work before, the police were happy to help. They gave the 'squatters' 30 minutes to go, or they would return and arrest them all for breaking and entering. When the squatters said they had rights, the cop offered to add to add breach of the peace to their rap sheet! The squatters left within the 30 minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 From Shelters website, here. I've dealt with it at work before, the police were happy to help. They gave the 'squatters' 30 minutes to go, or they would return and arrest them all for breaking and entering. When the squatters said they had rights, the cop offered to add to add breach of the peace to their rap sheet! The squatters left within the 30 minutes! One of the few times where I'm happy to hear of the police abusing their power lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil-NA Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Health and whatnow? Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 From Shelters website, here. I've dealt with it at work before, the police were happy to help. They gave the 'squatters' 30 minutes to go, or they would return and arrest them all for breaking and entering. When the squatters said they had rights, the cop offered to add to add breach of the peace to their rap sheet! The squatters left within the 30 minutes! I thought it was a similar thing in England. I.e. you can't break into a property because that is a criminal action. Taking residence in an empty, unprotected property isn't a criminal offence though and hence why you have to use civil actions. I have no experience or expertise in this area though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 I thought it was a similar thing in England. I.e. you can't break into a property because that is a criminal action. Taking residence in an empty, unprotected property isn't a criminal offence though and hence why you have to use civil actions. I have no experience or expertise in this area though Yeah but they play on that. This is the example they gave last night.... Stranger no.1 in red hat walks up to empty residence and kicks door in. Stranger then leaves the scene as he has been witnessed and a reasonable description can be given of him. Stranger no.2, blisfully unaware of the prior incident, stumbles across an open door and takes that as an invitation. Stranger no.2 then invites all his squatter buddies into his new place. Stranger no.1 is never seen again.... at least not with the red cap and fake beard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyTwo Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Gotta love the UK, protecting and rewarding the scum and workshy, hammering the honest hardworking citizen. If I ever caught anyone In my home without permission, I would go postal on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 It is a curious piece of law, and doesn't seem to be fit for purpose. Maybe it was at one time, who knows? I can't think of any other example where someone can use or take something from someone else without the owner's consent and not be in line for criminal prosecution. That tends to be theft or TWOC. As your example points out Scott, it also seems open to abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Board over the doors and windows on the outside with a note facing inwards saying, If you want the house you can die in it. Then proceed to torching it with the parasites in it. Now this is my kind of solution. I think I'd go for some kind of unfriendly (as in lethal) gas though, rather than fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Managed to get them out with out a court order, we went back again & just gave them a tickle They didn't want to be tickled again so moved out within a week. Lovely. Mr Tickle is my favourite Mr Men character. This happened to a pal of mine when he and his missus went on holiday a short while back. He had just returned from Afghanistan after a rather hectic time in the mountains and the holiday was his way of showing his wife that she had not been forgotten about after a 6-month period of separation i.e. a bit if quality time together. Upon their return to UK, the pair rapidly discovered that a herd of gypsy-looking feckers had taken over their house. As you all can imagine, this took the buzz out of their holiday memories somewhat so that night he invited his fellow Parachute Regiment muckers around for a BBQ and a few beers. Not all of the boys could attend due to work commitments but at least 50 of them showed willing. Would you believe it but it turned out that the gypo-feckers had real big hearts and subsequently apologised for any inconvenience caused. The 'squats' then volunteered the next 24 hours of their lives (without sleep) to paint and clean the house from top to toe with encouragement from 50 lovely guys. It turned out that my mate had only provided the beer and that the squatters were going to be the BBQ meat if they didn't comply. What a lovely ending - it almost brings a teardrop to the eye! Bless their hearts! The problem is, not everyone knows half a dozen or more people who could be handy in a proper fight (not just talking about a push and some bad language) and are up for a bit of "tickling". For those people, there's not much they can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 The problem is, not everyone knows half a dozen or more people who could be handy in a proper fight (not just talking about a push and some bad language) and are up for a bit of "tickling". For those people, there's not much they can do. As much as I hate them, a couple of hundered to the right security firm would see that sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I had some friends living in some flats in a town close by. The land lord owned the building next door. At which point, decided one of my friends living one of the flats should use his sub contract business and do the house next door up... only to find it was full of the little buggers!!! That weekend, a two `unknown` members of society went through the front door with a chair saw and axe. As the few down stairs fled up stairs, the axe man chased one all the way out a first floor window. Shortly after this event the police arrived, the property was boarded up by my friend who heard the commotion. Red Necks, gotta love them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 They on about squatters on LBC londons biggest conversation now listen online now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I'm not sure what I'd do really - what a horrible position to find yourself in. Aside from the not being able to be in your own home bit you'd have to deal with the fact that someone else had been living there if you ever did get back in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Don't they seal up the windows and doors, and then chuck in a canister of suitable poison for most parasitic infestations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Online: Murderize the cheeky so and so's with umpteen mates all willing to do time for you. Real Life: Feel really impotent and upset that your house had been invaded and spend time and money getting them evicted. Honestly, some of you make I laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 I wouldn't murder them, but I wouldn't have a problem shifting them IRL either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Actually real life speaking, if you really wanted your house back, you would sit in your car and observe just how many people are inhabiting the house, and wait until they are all out (they cant always leave one person in, as they would have to go sign on for there dole) break in just like they did and change all the locks, or board the whole place up, or leave ferocious dog or mate in residence until inhabited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I really feel for you there mate, that situation could get very messy. I'd have been back with a sword though In fact, I would have 2.... And a Daniel/Mr Mayagi headband... Always wanted to do that That would have been hilarious even more if we got that on camera. The 2nd time we went was a couple of days later after we had a neighbour spy on the property to see how many people were inside & as & when people were leaving etc. The first time we only went with 6 guys, we quadrupled the number of people on the 2nd visit & I think they got the message that we weren't messing around & we allowed them till the following morning to move or we would come back at some point. It did get quite messy though Scott, and like you said it could have got a lot more messy but we can buy stab proof vests from Asda in East london. Lovely. Mr Tickle is my favourite Mr Men character. Bless their hearts! The problem is, not everyone knows half a dozen or more people who could be handy in a proper fight (not just talking about a push and some bad language) and are up for a bit of "tickling". For those people, there's not much they can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Yeah but they play on that. This is the example they gave last night.... Stranger no.1 in red hat walks up to empty residence and kicks door in. Stranger then leaves the scene as he has been witnessed and a reasonable description can be given of him. Stranger no.2, blisfully unaware of the prior incident, stumbles across an open door and takes that as an invitation. Stranger no.2 then invites all his squatter buddies into his new place. Stranger no.1 is never seen again.... at least not with the red cap and fake beard. Ah ok. Seems odd they only find houses where people are on holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Ah ok. Seems odd they only find houses where people are on holiday. The folks in the show werent on holiday, they were in the process of moving in. They were renovating the house before moving from their flat. They had a whole load more renovating to do once the squatters were out though. It was also mentioned that another squatter had taken over a 5million pound mansion. They didn't have any full details on that one so not sure where the owners were lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyTwo Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Online: Murderize the cheeky so and so's with umpteen mates all willing to do time for you. Real Life: Feel really impotent and upset that your house had been invaded and spend time and money getting them evicted. Honestly, some of you make I laugh. Which would you choose if it was your home and someone had invaded it? stand aside and let the great unwashed have their way with your hard earned stuff, trash the place and leave when they are ready??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Which would you choose if it was your home and someone had invaded it? stand aside and let the great unwashed have their way with your hard earned stuff, trash the place and leave when they are ready??? I think his point is that there are a lot of keyboard warriors on here who tend to mouth off at what they would do, which is very different to what they actually do. Edit: If people did what they threatened on the forums most would be in prison right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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