attilauk Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 OK i have done a bit of searching but the only info i can find on hybrids is for J Spec cars, i was just wondering what supporting mods would i need to run a set of hybrids on my stock (apart from exhaust) uk car? could i just fit them to my car and add supporting mods as i want to turn the boost up or will i need extra bits and bobs to safely run them? im asking as chiefgroover will have some for sale pretty soon that im interested in. any advice would be greatfully recieved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Fuel pump.. maybe be better off with an uprated intercooler? EDIT: You probs don't need the fuel pump thinking about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Not worth the hassle (cost) unless yours have gone bang IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attilauk Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 lol fair one, i recently swapped my SMIC for a nearly new one so i was hoping that would be ok for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Yeah if it's in good nick you should be ok providing your not running huge boost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attilauk Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Not worth the hassle (cost) unless yours have gone bang IMHO. mine are starting to go atm it wont be too long till they do go bang, i was thinking of buying them and keeping them untill that happens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attilauk Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Yeah if it's in good nick you should be ok providing your not running huge boost cool, cheers mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Set of hybrids for sale here btw if your needing some http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=42691 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attilauk Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 thats where i saw em mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Uk specs have a fuel pump more than upto the job...the injectors are fine too... All I'd recommend is that you have a good condition IC (which you've said above) and that you get a fuel computer in to adjust the fueling and a WB02 to monitor your AFR's. UK's seem to run very rich so you might not need to trim the fueling up too much, if at all. But I'm also not sure if the effort will be worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attilauk Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 cheers Alex, why might it not be worth the effort? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Just get a single Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attilauk Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Just get a single the problem i have is that a single will cost me at least £1000 more than these hybrids and i can fit the hybrids myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 It's a LOT of effort to get the sequential kit off and back on...especially if you can't afford to break anything. The Hybrids are still limited by the same exhaust housings as your standard turbo's and a UK spec can make a healthy 400+ with all the BPU mods...Hybrids will max out at 470-500 (crank HP)...and you're going to add EGT's... It's entirely your choice. You should be able to just bolt them in and enjoy them, no real mapping time. So I guess there is a benefit there, but second hand Hybrids are not necessarily going to last better or give more power then good condition UK spec's. If you do go for them, try to concentrate on keeping the intake air temps down. Personally I think you should use a CW SMIC and if you have a cone filter it's time to box it in and give it a good cold air feed. Doing this will protect against high EGT's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attilauk Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 thanks for that Alex, i have a fair bit to think about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Also keep in mind that the term 'hybrid' is used rather loosely in these cases. It just means 'off-standard', nothing more. Decent remanufacturers would provide full details, proper warranties and compressor maps of their expensive creations. If you can find none of the above, you may be purchasing a set of poorly revamped stock turbos with oversized compressors machined to fit (invitation for easier compressor surge). It's the exhaust housings that tend to be the limiting factor in these OEM designs and the so-called hybrids do not address this. If they have cut-back turbine wheels then they trade off a lot of efficiency and some boost threshold for a slight decrease in backpressure (poor tradeoff) There could always appear a set of 'hybrids' that really is an improvement on the stock units, but I'm not holding my breath... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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