suprasize Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Hello and morning Okay, well im looking at converting my NA to a 1jz gte... just got a quote for an 67,000km engine including all ancillaries (turbo's etc) for £1000 delievered to my address.... Is that too much? Please any opinions and posts welcome Thanks Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BradMD Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 I know some one who was willing to sell a 2jz-gte for 1500 euros tho with all the ancilarries and bits, delivered not sure if its still available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasize Posted August 26, 2011 Author Share Posted August 26, 2011 Fair enough sounds quite good. However ive got my heart set on a 1jz now =) very revvy, so anyones opinions?? £1000 for a long block and all ancillaries? Delivered =D low mileage (this one has 62,000km)... What does everyone think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 If the ancilleries include the downpipe, water hoses, TT PAS reservoir & piping, SMIC & related pipework, acclerator cable and absolutely everything else you need to get the 1JZ up and running then £1000 is a fair price for a good one delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 IMO you are better buying a running Soarer so you can try the engine before you buy it. Soarers are cheap as chips if you shop around, especially scruffy or damaged ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasize Posted August 26, 2011 Author Share Posted August 26, 2011 Theres a really nice soarer knocking about atm, steel bladed turbines (hybrids), boost controller, and all other basic bpu parts =). £1500.... Is that a fair price? Low mileage. But its an auto, will that be a problem if im mating it up with my manual w58? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 IMO you are better buying a running Soarer so you can try the engine before you buy it. Soarers are cheap as chips if you shop around, especially scruffy or damaged ones. That would certainly be the ideal, I haven't even heard my lump running yet and I've spent a fair bit of time and effort getting it ready to fit. If it's a bad 'un I think I'll have a bit of a weep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Im with Chris, you can get a running car for less than a grand, much as it brings a huge tear to my eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Theres a really nice soarer knocking about atm, steel bladed turbines (hybrids), boost controller, and all other basic bpu parts =). £1500.... Is that a fair price? Low mileage. But its an auto, will that be a problem if im mating it up with my manual w58? There is no problem physically mating a W58 box and clutch to a 1JZ, mine met for the first time last night and it was love at first sight. Everything lines up as it would on a 2JZ. With the engine coming from an auto there are one or two modifications to be made to the wiring to get it to start and run properly, if you use the ECU from the 1JZ auto. Or you could source a 1JZ manual ECU for very little and save yourself the 10 minutes work or indeed go for an aftermarket ECU. Be prepared for the W58 to have a short lifespan bolted to a turbo'd engine though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasize Posted August 26, 2011 Author Share Posted August 26, 2011 http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3107170.htm What you think? Also, Would you be able to mate up the soarers manual box directly to a mkiv? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Looks good, almost too good to break! Be wary of any claims of upgrades, look for proof. A soarer manual gearbox (R154) depending on the age of the soarer it came from may or may not need modification to fit it to a MKIV. An older box will need the shifter housing extended back, like the W58 to make it fit properly. A newer box will have this done from the factory but these boxes are close to V160/1 money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Id buy that to pimp about in! Can see a few bits worth good money there. As above re- gearboxes except the value. If you can find one they can be had for less than a grand, I got a late model 154 from a Chaser for 550, pure luck of course lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Don't forget folks, an auto engine will need a spigot shaft bearing pressing into the back of the crank for the gearbox input shaft to run in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 This was a forum members car at my place for some work, some time back, not sure what became of it, but it had a LOT of money spent on it. The wife still talks fondly of hers, it was a FAR better car than the 928 she had before it. http://www.gatesgarth.com/soarer/soarer.html The 1JZ is a much "nicer" engine than the 2JZ, IMHO, they get a bit rough on the longer 2JZ stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Don't forget folks, an auto engine will need a spigot shaft bearing pressing into the back of the crank for the gearbox input shaft to run in! Ah crap! Just kidding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 LOL, Just scrolled down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadeS Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Chris can you tell something about 1.5JZ? Any experience at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 A lot of people think any gsins are a myth, and its a lot of work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadeS Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Well for me it is going to be strocker not a 1JZ head flow mega ultra power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Chris can you tell something about 1.5JZ? Any experience at all? No experience with them, sorry. Personally I'd keep the right head on the right block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BradD Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 just read the thread and interested in why people prefer the smaller 1jz? Also this thread may be of interest to you guys http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-176079.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abtin90 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 there's a tt soarer for cheap on gumtree, maybe worth looking at as its cheaper than the quote you got for just the engine. http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/lexus-soarer-25-twin-turbo/86338819 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasize Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 hmmmm... Im still thinking of buying a long block and turbo's seperately. Got a long block on hold atm from the lexus soarer owners club at £350 (still need to source a sump and turbos though...) engines done 70,000km... what you reckon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Less than 900 quid for a whole car? What do YOU think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Lexus Soarers dont exist, much like unicorns. If you buy a car you can sell bits off, weigh the rest in and the engine will cost you a couple hundred quid. And from a major Soarer lover saying that hurts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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