chazuk Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I have it took me 5minutes to get to sign due to the high demand within those 5minutes another 5,400 people signed Link http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337 Convicted London rioters should loose all benefits. - e-petitions epetitions.direct.gov.uk Any persons convicted of criminal acts during the current London riots should have all financial benefits removed. No tax payer should have to contribute to those who have destroyed property, stolen from their community and shown a disregard for the country that provides for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I like the idea, however if you take away the only income, and give them a C/R how can they feed themselves? By looting and stealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kill1308 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I like the idea, however if you take away the only income, and give them a C/R how can they feed themselves? By looting and stealing. I was just thinking the same thing.... Whilst I agree in principle that they should have everything taken away from them, it wouldn't work in the real world and would only cause them to commit more crimes. The proper solution would be to have a justice system where they actually got punished properly for what they did and serve some hard time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 I like the idea, however if you take away the only income, and give them a C/R how can they feed themselves? By looting and stealing. I see what you are saying but if they are on benefits and have been involved in the riots then why cant they get a second job or in fact a job to start with . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 I was just thinking the same thing.... Whilst I agree in principle that they should have everything taken away from them, it wouldn't work in the real world and would only cause them to commit more crimes. The proper solution would be to have a justice system where they actually got punished properly for what they did and serve some hard time. Yea so true but as we all know the justice system is a joke in this country I heard on the radio one of the rioters got 5years already but like they said they will be out in 2 or less if good behaviour etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kill1308 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I see what you are saying but if they are on benefits and have been involved in the riots then why cant they get a second job or in fact a job to start with . Because they have an IQ similar to that of a Wood Pigeon and in some cases, that is probably being too generous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 because they have an iq similar to that of a wood pigeon and in some cases, that is probably being too generous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 The fact that it says loose not lose means I'm out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 The fact that it says loose not lose means I'm out. #kneejerkfail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 The fact that it says loose not lose means I'm out. I put it down to him being very angry at the time of typing:sly: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 The fact that it says loose not lose means I'm out. Aye, me too. An e-petition will do nothing to harm these lose moralled loosers who seem to think its acceptable to lote shops at will. Why 100,000 signatures though? What happens if it reaches or exceeds that target, does it automatically become statute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Aye, me too. An e-petition will do nothing to harm these lose moralled loosers who seem to think its acceptable to lote shops at will. Why 100,000 signatures though? What happens if it reaches or exceeds that target, does it automatically become statute? It means an MP is allowed to bring it up in Parliament. People may very well ignore it, but they can bring it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Aye, me too. An e-petition will do nothing to harm these lose moralled loosers who seem to think its acceptable to lote shops at will. lave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Hasn't one if the Councils in London said it will evict anyone claiming housing benefits caught rioting. I think they can do that too which should be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I see what you are saying but if they are on benefits and have been involved in the riots then why cant they get a second job or in fact a job to start with . Exactly, if they were employable they wouldn't be on benefits. No way has the government got the bottle to do the right thing. Labour have been feeding these parasites for 10 years, they are now too many and too adept to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I see what you are saying but if they are on benefits and have been involved in the riots then why cant they get a second job or in fact a job to start with . Because as a boss i wouldnt hire anyone with a record that stated they where involved in stealing ect. They where mostly unemployable before due to the fact they where chavs with an IQ lower than that of my cat. Now they will have a record as well. Now signing them to the army............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Bring back national service, etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyh_15 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I like the idea, however if you take away the only income, and give them a C/R how can they feed themselves? By looting and stealing. I'm sure they can get a job if they needed to or actually put some effort into getting one! Also to actually go for a job that they see as morally under them! So take them away and then this should be a big enough kick in the arse to get them to stop being lazy good for nothings an actually work like the majority of people for an income! And breath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyh_15 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Because as a boss i wouldnt hire anyone with a record that stated they where involved in stealing ect. They where mostly unemployable before due to the fact they where chavs with an IQ lower than that of my cat. Now they will have a record as well. Now signing them to the army............ Rehabilitation of offenders act and all that. I agree that yes they may be mentally incapable to partake in a job such as yours or mine but there are jobs out for them. They are more than capable of cleaning toilets, litter picking, trolly collecting! If they are incapable of such a job I agree the army it should be then if they are even incapable to be infantry then we need something to fill the potholes in our roads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foley Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 y would any of em want 2 work they get houses they get money they get everything on a plate and none of em want 2 work or make an attempt to get jobs over here in dubai its so different there is no tax the locals are looked after they get given plots of land and money to build a house they are able to sponsor expats businesses so they get money from that they all get free healthcare and free schooling and dont even have to pay utility bills but in the uk its a case of looking after everyone else and not looking after the people who were born there this will end up turning into a massive debate over racism and people will say they are having their human rights taken away but f*ck em they are just a drain on society and the reason that the uk is a shite place to live the people who genuinely require support from the government should be given the basics to survive but no reason they need thousands and thousands of pounds thrown at em to be out getting drunk every night living in housing they dont deserve. Every housing development built now a percentage is given to housing trust and y should someone who has worked all their life to afford a house in a nice area have to live next to scum that get it for free. They should all be put in hostels not live in million pound housing developments. All the people that claim benefits should have to earn it in some way even if they send em all out collecting rubbish or cleaning streets then they would appreciate where they live a little more sorry to anyone on here who takes offence by my comments but if people wanna abuse a system they should be made to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Im all for getting people off of state aid, however you cant tarnish everyone with the same brush. You lose your job tomorrow, and they give you the basic to survive. IE you can pay for your car, you kids have to wear cheap second hand clothes, your eating value food, you cant buy anything nice at all. I know id do something about it job or no job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foley Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 its not aimed at everyone just the majority but it should just be the minimum to survive and people who have jobs should have separate insurance that covers them for all the major bills should they lose their jobs but y pay for people who use benefits for going to the pub buying drugs and using it for crap. It amazes me as well my ex is on benefits and has been for years she uses her money to buy the gold she has out of pawn instead of using it to seek employment and the biggest joke is how they are able to get loans from banks and stores being on benefits is a joke and the majority abuse it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo2810 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 99500 signatures and suddenly the e-Petitions site is having a problem and has to be taken down. The conspiracy theorist in me is screaming out..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyh_15 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I agree if you lose your job through no fault of your own there should be help for you. But if you lose it through your own fault or something like gross miss conduct or sexual harassment then there should not be any help for you financially. Also you should only be allowed to claim for a maximum amount of time and if you constantly fail job interviews or don't apply you should be enlisted or designated a job even I it's not what you want as to tide you over until a job you want comes up you can apply for and may actually put some real effort in to getting. These people don't have ambition so put them in a job they hate ten they will have an ambition to get a better job or lose everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Its hard to weed out wasters from people who need help. The only way to do it would be in food vouchers that cant be exchanged for fags and or booze. But then they would sell them and buy it anyway. The system has made it to easy to do nothing, some people i know couldnt afford the houses they live in if they worked. Some people i know are worse off working than not. Its the systems fault not the people. If someone offered me a better standard of living in exchange for not working id take it to. Dont hate the player hate the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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