carl0s Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I just can't handle it any more. My car feels rough as SHIT. I have some TM Engineering / R2 Racing Poly Bushes on order from MVP for whenever the group buy happens, but I think i just want to replace the OEM bushes and ball joints, which I understand are part of the control arms and anciliaries. I have no idea how many peices there are to this, or which the most likely candidates for replacement are. Does anybody have a clue? I can take a wheel off and jack the car up if anyone can suggest what I need to be looking at. My car is a '94 UK TT Auto. please help I know Paul Whiffin replaced *everything* on his, but he wasn't particularly chatty when it came to the details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 I forgot to say.. it's particularly the front which is absolutely knackered, although today my O/S rear has started knocking LOUDLY, but I'm hoping this is just something in my boot.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I am in a similar position to you although i dont have a knock from the front. The front of my car is very vague going round corners. I have ordered the poly bushes from mvp which should hopefully be here in a few days, i also have new bilstein dampers to go on all round and rear wheel bearings as well, I will let you know how the car drives when i get it all fitted if you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 yes please do! where did you get your rear wheel bearing from? Mine is due for replacement! I've just reinstalled the EPC (not used it in a while!) so I'm getting part numbers for upper / lower wishbones now. Please let them be cheap!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Carl check THIS POST where I listed all the parts I had replaced on mine, made a MASSIVE difference to the handling of the car, best money I ever spent on the car. Rear end was replaced with stock Toyota parts, fronts with TRD bushes (see post below.) If you need quote on any Toyota parts let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 Nic I am about to get prices from my local Toyota dealer for the following parts. If the price is reasonable then I'm likely to be ordering tomorrow although if possible I'd like to hear the prices you can get them for. I'll do the same and tell you my prices. 48610-19025 ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION UPPER, RH 48630-19025 ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION UPPER, LH 48068-14080 ARM SUB-ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION, LOWER NO.1 RH 48069-14080 ARM SUB-ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION, LOWER NO.1 LH is there anything else you think I should be ordering for the front end, to start out with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I have Toyota UK prices (inc discount) for all the rear parts I listed and the HK prices are quite a bit cheaper. I've not got the HK prices of the front parts you listed, it may take me a couple of days to get a quote from my supplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul -C- Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 I picked up everything Nic listed for the rear today, from my local Toyota dealer. Can't wait to get them fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesgtr Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 48610-19025 ....168.35+vat retail 48630-19025.....168.35+vat retail 48068-14080......198.62+vat retail 48069-14080......198.62+vat retail filled in the prices for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 14, 2005 Author Share Posted July 14, 2005 bloody hell. £700 just to do the front end what should I do? theres a guy in australia who does rubber bits for the soarer / sc 's.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 bloody hell. £700 just to do the front end what should I do? theres a guy in australia who does rubber bits for the soarer / sc 's.. I've just got quotes from here, not sure what postage would be yet so I'll work £ price and post shortly. It may seem a lot of money but if yours is anything like mine was it WILL be the best money you have ever spent on the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 14, 2005 Author Share Posted July 14, 2005 please come back with the best prices you can! can you include the essential rear-end parts too? nothing non-essential though.. i.e. nuts and bolts like you replaced on yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 bloody hell. £700 just to do the front end what should I do? theres a guy in australia who does rubber bits for the soarer / sc 's.. With the VAT included Toyota UK total price is actually = £862.38!! I could do the same parts for total = £560 (not including postage) I also negotiated discounted prices for potential group buy, if I can get 5 or more orders, total price per set = £515 (not including postage) Not cheap but a huge saving over UK prices and if your bushes are currently worn, it will completely transform the handling of your car. I also have costs for TRD front bush set, which I can work out if you are interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 14, 2005 Author Share Posted July 14, 2005 Nic dude that's awesome and I want to buy now, however.. I want to do something to make the rear like New-ish too! Can you give a price for the essentials for the rear.. and do you think I'm missing anything else *essential*? as I said before, I don't want nuts and bolts and other bits that won't be needed, and also I don't want to spend hundreds on parts that are unlikely to be worn.. ..but can you give me a price for front & rear? Looks like i'll be selling my Poly bushes when/if they arrive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul -C- Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Nic: Can you PM me the price for the front TRD bushes? I'm interested in how much more expensive they are compared to new control arms. I've already bought all the rear parts you recommended. Either way, I'll be buying from you at those prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Nic: Can you PM me the price for the front TRD bushes? I'm interested in how much more expensive they are compared to new control arms. I've already bought all the rear parts you recommended. Either way, I'll be buying from you at those prices Good man Paul I like selling stuff Carl/Paul I'll post up prices for everything tomorrow, as it's getting late here now and my brian has stopped ticking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul -C- Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 The determining factor now has got to be the cost of shipping. I have obtained prices for the Vlamos / VFT Bushes which are proper rubber replacement bushes. These have been supplied to loads of Soarer / SC owners and a few MKIV owners too. However... The prices are £440 for the front (£240 for the 4 lower bushings, and £200 for the 4 upper) and the same for the rear. So that's like only £110 less than the cost of four new control arms at Nics prices. The labour cost should be less for replacing control arms, and it also means that the ball-joints are being replaced at the same time. So now there are only two important questions: 1. How much is shipping? 2. What *needs* to be replaced? I have heard somewhere that "it's the upper bushings which are responsible for ride-comfort". If we can half the costs by only replacing what's needed, then that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 The Soarer control arms are more expensive than the Supra arms (the LCAs are £340.00 each from the LSOC shop) which makes the bushes a better deal. As you said, there's still the issue of the ball joints. Although the control arms appear to be interchangeable, the Soarer bushes seem to be more biased towards confort than those fitted to the Supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 16, 2005 Author Share Posted July 16, 2005 There are 10 control arms in total, which are listed below. 48630-19025 FRONT, UPPER LH 48610-19025 FRONT, UPPER RH 48069-14080 FRONT, LOWER LH 48068-14080 FRONT, LOWER RH 48790-19025 REAR, UPPER LH 48770-19025 REAR, UPPER RH 48710-14110 REAR, NO.1 LOWER LH 48710-14110 REAR, NO.1 LOWER RH (same part number as LH? "pnc#(sub)" shows as different on the EPC) 48740-14060 REAR, NO.2 LOWER LH 48730-14030 REAR, NO.2 LOWER RH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Bump Paul/Carl, sorry it's taking me a little longer than I thought to get rough weight of the parts, so I can calculate the postage. They're not going to be light, I need to make sure I know roughly how heavy each piece is going to be, just to give you a rough idea on postage rates and delivery times: Surface Post, total 8-9 weeks (4-5 order from Japan + 4 weeks surface post to UK) 10kg = £25 20kg = £35 Airmail, total 5-6 weeks (4-5 order from Japan + 5-7 days airmail to UK) 10kg = £58 20kg = £105 I'll post final delivered costs shortly for full front set of arms and rear set of arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul -C- Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Nic, I have all the rear control arms if you want me to weigh one of them. Might give you a rough idea. Would only work if they are similar sizes I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Nic, I have all the rear control arms if you want me to weigh one of them. Might give you a rough idea. Would only work if they are similar sizes I guess. Brilliant if you could that would be perfect Do you know which is which part no. if not just post photo and explain which piece is what weight, if you see what I mean. From looking at the EPC I suspect the fronts will be a little heavier, but I have the weight now of a Lexus front arm so can roughly guess this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supracat Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Hi, I'd be interested in a new set of front/rear control arms too if you're looking for a group buy, and Nic, i've sent you a pm about the HKS's - cheers cheers supracat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Hi, I'd be interested in a new set of front/rear control arms too if you're looking for a group buy, and Nic, i've sent you a pm about the HKS's - cheers cheers supracat Hi D Replied to your pm. Very good idea to do this (and something I recommended on my pm to you) if your car is getting on in years. There must be a lot of cars on the road today that are driving around on worn out, wobbly suspension joints. The difference all new joints made to the handling of mine was just increadible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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