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The police did arrive at one point after a report of a stolen car being made, but little could be done at that point, as certain people had indeed taken as much as they could, including we fear customers cars. These people, were all owed huge amounts by Max and Albert (up to a reported 380,000 pounds to one guy), and the more we discovered about how much Max and Albert had dug themselves in, the more likely we we would find that we would have to fight for parts/cars that were ours or our customers. It was a horrible environment, with altercations, by the time I had got into the office to begin scavenging anything worth while keeping, it had already been ranshacked by a group of randomers working on behalf of someone else.

 

The final chapter of the evening was arranging for transportation of the 2 x Civics back down to Cwmbran, where the Chorlton brothers' usual car transporting crew were interupted by a sudden swarm of Police, who insisted that unless the original owners could produce a logbook, they would arrest anyone who attempted to move the Civics. With the logbooks being over 2 hours away with the owners, and the time closing 11.30pm, the frustration of the day got to me, and I just felt that I was on a losing battle. After a bit of cry, I was pulled to a side by the reporting Sergent. He asked for the entire story, and I gave it to him straight. He made the decision to allow the Civics to go, given the risk that they may get taken away by somebody else if left in that area. As the surrounding drama was a Civil Matter, and not criminal, the police refused to secure the area, offering a drive-by every now and then to ensure the unit was not broken into. The police refused to cover the costs to take the 2 skylines to the police impound, and said that we would need to leave them, or cover the costs for transporting them.

 

Show me what you read

 

 

Tell me where the police said they couldn't do anything?

 

Erm, that the police were called..... and involved a few times?

 

At least you have the chance to read it now :)

 

Edit: Man you love that edit button. Everytime I reply to one of your posts you have edited it with additional information/questions. Why not just take the time and think about what you want to say before hitting the button?

 

Anyway, to answer your question do a little search for the word "civil" in the quote you have posted up.

 

Or, just read it.

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"The police did arrive at one point after a report of a stolen car being made, but little could be done at that point, as certain people had indeed taken as much as they could, including we fear customers cars."

 

"The final chapter of the evening was arranging for transportation of the 2 x Civics back down to Cwmbran, where the Chorlton brothers' usual car transporting crew were interupted by a sudden swarm of Police, who insisted that unless the original owners could produce a logbook, they would arrest anyone who attempted to move the Civics"

 

 

 

If the police had been there from the begining to anly allow access to the staff to collect their possessions then people would not be left without cars and parts.

 

Maybe I should give up my job seeing that you have now explained this all to me Scott. - All those years of exams and studying and working 12 hour days!!! I wish I'd met you sooner to tell me that what I was learning and practicing wasn't true:(

 

At least now I know so I will hand in my notice and find the true path

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Someone walking in to a shop and walking out with something without paying doesn't fall under civil law.

 

and yes I used the edit button. in exactly the same way you did on your last post (I doubt you were you trying to be ironic????), to correct spelling. No further sentences were added or deleted!

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I have been involved in active administrations and liquidations in the past before becoming a solicitor... even played a small part in the administration of MG Rover which was quite exciting. The original post sounds very odd and doesnt make much sense to me.

 

Irrespective of what people in this thread have said, at the point of administration the property and responsibility for the property becomes that of the administrator or liquidator. The staff members should not have actually gained access to the building, never mind have given assets back without permission of the administrator. Technically the Police should have got involved when people started illegally moving assets out of the control of the administrator (which is a criminal matter). With part finished, unpaid jobs there would be significant issues with regard to Retention of Title and who owns what and what has been paid. The staff member trying honestly to sort things out might have unintentionally complicated matters (but I don't blame him for being honest and trying to sort things out).

 

The people to blame for what sounds like a massive mess is the administrators (if there were any) and/or the owners who appear to have left everyone else in the poo. Administrators should have handled the situation and the owners shouldn't be dodgy.

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I have been involved in active administrations and liquidations in the past before becoming a solicitor... even played a small part in the administration of MG Rover which was quite exciting. The original post sounds very odd and doesnt make much sense to me.

 

Irrespective of what people in this thread have said, at the point of administration the property and responsibility for the property becomes that of the administrator or liquidator. The staff members should not have actually gained access to the building, never mind have given assets back without permission of the administrator. Technically the Police should have got involved when people started illegally moving assets out of the control of the administrator (which is a criminal matter). With part finished, unpaid jobs there would be significant issues with regard to Retention of Title and who owns what and what has been paid. The staff member trying honestly to sort things out might have unintentionally complicated matters (but I don't blame him for being honest and trying to sort things out).

 

The people to blame for what sounds like a massive mess is the administrators (if there were any) and/or the owners who appear to have left everyone else in the poo. Administrators should have handled the situation and the owners shouldn't be dodgy.

 

Yes, Which is what I was trying to put across and some 'know-it-all' tried to shoot down everything I said.

 

The thing is that if the creditors were staved off they may have not got the administrators in.

 

I am an accountant specialising in business and transaction services and have had to get involvbed in more than a few corporate recovery and liquidation cases.

 

Funny you should mention MG as I deal with the gentleman that backed the buyout of MG Rover which was much more generous than Phoenix's offer but due to politics was stopped from happening. I have recently worked on his buyout of Reader's Digest and Fairline Yachts.

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Funny you should mention MG as I deal with the gentleman that backed the buyout of MG Rover which was much more generous than Phoenix's offer but due to politics was stopped from happening. I have recently worked on his buyout of Reader's Digest and Fairline Yachts.

 

Ooh that sounds exciting. Cool life :)

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Loz who wrote that and worked for RC and CPR is one of my best friends, i have known him for quite a few years and would say he is a honest and trustworthy guy, certainly not a thief as you like to describe him.

 

I feel so sorry for him as this is basically the 3rd time this has happend (grasshopper before them 2) and seems to be a common thing with NW tuners (Grasshopper, RC, CPR, Hyper Sports)

 

Infact maybe your right and us NW lot are just a bunch of pikey scumbags :sly:

 

johny hopper should never have opened that unit had he stayed at his house and just kept it as sales grasshopper would be big business today which is a shame as he one of the soundest guys you could ever meet

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