I hope no body on here has cars/parts at Car Planet Racing CPR Warrington

[Stephendjb]

I've just seen this:-

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/154586-car-planet-cpr-closure-official-goodbye.html

& been ringing round mates I know that use them.

 

Only one (Carl) is affected (He's mentioned in the first post with the Evo 8 in bits).

 

I thought I'd better post up on here just in case any one is affected but hasn't heard yet.

[T2 MSW]

Thought it was odd that ive just been looking through the for sale add of the CPR Evo 8

Very sad

[tooley]

its rc dev all over again i know danny very well from the original rc saga and i cant beleive the gtr guys would be duped all over again

[Abz]

Wow, sounds like something out of a movie, seems like most underground dealings.

[Josh]

Crazy!!

[ilicos]

That was handled in a totally wrong manner!!! The police should have been called immediately, and the guy wrote that explanation was as bad as the rest of the thieves.

 

Because they were so fixed on getting what they thought was rightfully theirs, they allowed enough time for others to just stroll in and take their pick.

 

A sad story but the police are there for a reason! (Even though I have my issues with the police - but that's another story)

[Scott]

That is unbelievable, really feel for the guys

[Scott]

That was handled in the totally wrong manner!!! The police should have been called immediately and the guy wrote that explanation was as bad as the rest of the thieves. Because they were so fixed on getting what they thought was rightfully theirs, they allowed enough time for others to just stroll in and take their pick.

 

A sad story but the police are there for a reason! (Even though I have my issues with the police - but that's another story)

 

It's a civil matter mate, police can't do a lot in that sort of situation.

[ilicos]

It's not a civil matter if people you don't know are walking in and taking stuff. That's theft!

 

If the people were owed money then they should get on the creditors list and get it back if and when the company is liquidated.

 

The owners of their vehicles would still have been allowed to drive their cars away after showing proof of ownership.

[Scott]

It's not a civil matter if people you don't know are walking in and taking stuff. That's theft!

 

If the people were owed money then they should get on the creditors list and get it back if and when the company is liquidated.

 

The owners of their vehicles would still have been allowed to drive their cars away after showing proof of ownership.

 

You're not following the situation bud. The people entering the property are staking claims on items, they claim to own them. The only people who can say they are stealing is the owners. The staff can only protect the items they know that are owned by customers or themselves.

 

IMO they did a damn good job to get most of the customers cars into safe hands, I've seen many stories like this going down a VERY different path.

 

Thinking any differently is living in a fantasy land.

[sammytruck]

Absolutely tragic for all concerned, hope somehow they can rebuild without losing their homes.

[Neil-NA]

the guy wrote that explanation was as bad as the rest of the thieves.

 

Loz who wrote that and worked for RC and CPR is one of my best friends, i have known him for quite a few years and would say he is a honest and trustworthy guy, certainly not a thief as you like to describe him.

 

I feel so sorry for him as this is basically the 3rd time this has happend (grasshopper before them 2) and seems to be a common thing with NW tuners (Grasshopper, RC, CPR, Hyper Sports)

 

Infact maybe your right and us NW lot are just a bunch of pikey scumbags

[tkddav3]

woah that sounds horrible. good luck to them getting everything sorted

[ilicos]

In my job I see this very very regularly, especially nowadays with the vast amount of businesses that are going under. As I said before, by way of accounting records, the creditors could pursue their claim to ownership through the insolvency practitioner and let the gangsters, etc. chase after the owners. This is a business and therefore not a 'personal' matter as the business is an entity in its own right.

 

Give your fantasy land reasoning to the guy that turns up and finds that his car is gone and probably in pieces in some dodgy parts yard.

 

BTW, this is covered in the Companies Act 2006 and Insolvency law so this is not a personal matter by any means.

 

All I know is this would have probably worked out a lot fairer to the genuine owners and creditors of the business if the police were called in and secured the premises until the winding up process was started by the genuine creditors

 

Applying your own logic does not make what you say right.

[j_jza80]

It's not a civil matter if people you don't know are walking in and taking stuff. That's theft!

 

 

The owners of their vehicles would still have been allowed to drive their cars away after showing proof of ownership.

 

 

The modified car industry seems to attract all manner of criminals

[foley]

if i had given some guy 180k for 3 mercedes and the money was gone and they were gone and knowing how the courts work and trying to recover money i would of gone taken whatever i could

[ilicos]

Loz who wrote that and worked for RC and CPR is one of my best friends, i have known him for quite a few years and would say he is a honest and trustworthy guy, certainly not a thief as you like to describe him.

 

I feel so sorry for him as this is basically the 3rd time this has happend (grasshopper before them 2) and seems to be a common thing with NW tuners (Grasshopper, RC, CPR, Hyper Sports)

 

 

I did not call him a thief. I said that he obviously panicked and thought that he would get as much out as he could before the proper process began. He would have got his money, etc. if he went about this the proper way.

 

By delaying and not seeking advice, he may have caused others to lose out. I am not saying this was done at all maliciously, but it certainly wasn't the best thing to do. He did what he thaught was best and some people have got their possessions back. Others however will not.

 

Infact maybe your right and us NW lot are just a bunch of pikey scumbags

 

Just clearing up that I neither said or implied anything of the sort

[Neil-NA]

 

 

Just clearing up that I neither said or implied anything of the sort

 

That was more said in jest than anything after looking at how many of the NW tuners went t*ts up.

[ilicos]

That was more said in jest than anything after looking at how many of the NW tuners went t*ts up.

 

I thought so but just wanted to make sure you didn't get the wrong end of the stick mate;)

[Brazil]

Simply Sad...! It's going to be tough to pull out of this one..! Though harder the battle sweeter the victory..!

[Scott]

In my job I see this very very regularly, especially nowadays with the vast amount of businesses that are going under. As I said before, by way of accounting records, the creditors could pursue their claim to ownership through the insolvency practitioner and let the gangsters, etc. chase after the owners. This is a business and therefore not a 'personal' matter as the business is an entity in its own right.

 

Give your fantasy land reasoning to the guy that turns up and finds that his car is gone and probably in pieces in some dodgy parts yard.

 

BTW, this is covered in the Companies Act 2006 and Insolvency law so this is not a personal matter by any means.

 

All I know is this would have probably worked out a lot fairer to the genuine owners and creditors of the business if the police were called in and secured the premises until the winding up process was started by the genuine creditors

 

Applying your own logic does not make what you say right.

 

 

I'm getting the impression that you haven't read the full story now. Have a read at it bud. For example... the police were called and it was deemed a civil matter.

[Havard]

Infact maybe your right and us NW lot are just a bunch of pikey scumbags

 

Agreed. Is this place still unlocked then?

 

Shame this and it sounds like many people have been shafted. This is why I keep my car stock as I would never leave my car with anyone classed as a tuner. The NW seems to have a problem with reliable, solvent businesses when it comes to tuners. Stories of poor jobs, parts going missing etc are common place.

 

I have been on that forecourt a few times but never bought anything as I didn't get a good feel for the place.

 

H.

[ilicos]

I'm getting the impression that you haven't read the full story now. Have a read at it bud. For example... the police were called and it was deemed a civil matter.

Then the police were imbeciles.

 

I have read the full post and many have the same view as me on the matter

[Scott]

Then the police were imbeciles.

 

I have read the full post any many have the same view as me on the matter

 

You missed some chunks then if you didn't know the police were called and involved a few times.

[ilicos]

You missed some chunks then if you didn't know the police were called and involved a few times.

 

Quoted from post

 

The police did arrive at one point after a report of a stolen car being made, but little could be done at that point, as certain people had indeed taken as much as they could, including we fear customers cars. These people, were all owed huge amounts by Max and Albert (up to a reported 380,000 pounds to one guy), and the more we discovered about how much Max and Albert had dug themselves in, the more likely we we would find that we would have to fight for parts/cars that were ours or our customers. It was a horrible environment, with altercations, by the time I had got into the office to begin scavenging anything worth while keeping, it had already been ranshacked by a group of randomers working on behalf of someone else.

 

The final chapter of the evening was arranging for transportation of the 2 x Civics back down to Cwmbran, where the Chorlton brothers' usual car transporting crew were interupted by a sudden swarm of Police, who insisted that unless the original owners could produce a logbook, they would arrest anyone who attempted to move the Civics. With the logbooks being over 2 hours away with the owners, and the time closing 11.30pm, the frustration of the day got to me, and I just felt that I was on a losing battle. After a bit of cry, I was pulled to a side by the reporting Sergent. He asked for the entire story, and I gave it to him straight. He made the decision to allow the Civics to go, given the risk that they may get taken away by somebody else if left in that area. As the surrounding drama was a Civil Matter, and not criminal, the police refused to secure the area, offering a drive-by every now and then to ensure the unit was not broken into. The police refused to cover the costs to take the 2 skylines to the police impound, and said that we would need to leave them, or cover the costs for transporting them.

 

Show me what you read

 

 

Tell me where the police said they couldn't do anything?