T14PPA Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I have just bought a supra and I noticed that when i use to come back to my car, it use to always be unlocked. i was confused but after i just sat there and waited for the turbo timer to turn off and my car unlocked. can anyone help with this? its a blitz turbo timer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Get rid of the turbo timer. It does nothing anyway. Just cool the car down by driving slowly for the last part of your journey. Much better for the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Also, you'll probably find it will invalidate your insurance too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 (edited) And it's illegal to leave a car running when your not in it iirc? Edit - S42 of the RTA 1988. This section deals with Construction & Use offences. Quitting is dealt with by Regulation 107(1) of The Road Vehicles (Constriction and Use) Regulation 1986 (SI 1986/1078 ) Regulation 107(2)(a). This states that no person shall cause or permit to be on any road any motor vehicle which is not attended by a person duly licensed to drive it unless the engine is stopped and the parking brake is effectively set. Exemptions to the requirements of this Regulation as to the stopping of the engine include a fire brigade vehicle, the engine of which is being used for any fire brigade purpose. 30 quid fine. Edited July 26, 2011 by Guigsy (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 mine wont lock with the turbo timer running so i wait for it to turn off then activate alam, have you tried that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 dp my bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 mine wont lock with the turbo timer running so i wait for it to turn off then activate alam, have you tried that Mine is the same. I have thought about removing it but everything works fine and I don't really want to start messing about with it. I am assuming the OP has tried locking the car after the turbo timer has finished? H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14PPA Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 very helpful posts by everyone, thanks alot, appreciate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Get rid of the turbo timer. It does nothing anyway. Just cool the car down by driving slowly for the last part of your journey. Much better for the car. I always thought it was more to do with letting the turbos spool down than under bonnet temperatures? I always drive slowly for the last part of the journey then let the car idle for about 30 - 60 seconds then turn off. Also usually pop the bonnet to remove some excess temperature too. Edited July 28, 2011 by Tyson (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I always thought it was more to do with letting the turbos spool down than under bonnet temperatures? I always drive slowly for the last part of the journey then let the car idle for about 30 - 60 seconds then turn off. Also usually pop the bonnet to remove some excess temperature too. The turbos spool down? I don't get what you mean. Having a car stood still with the engine running is never a good move - it's actually more likely to do damage. The car needs to be moving to make the best use of the cooling system. The only time a turbo timer will do a jot of good for your car is if you rag the balls off it and then turn it off and walk away. It's always better to just drive it slowly for a minute or two and then park up and turn it off as normal. If that wasn't the case, don't you think every manufacturer-built turbocharged car would have a turbo timer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The turbos spool down? I don't get what you mean. Having a car stood still with the engine running is never a good move - it's actually more likely to do damage. The car needs to be moving to make the best use of the cooling system. The only time a turbo timer will do a jot of good for your car is if you rag the balls off it and then turn it off and walk away. It's always better to just drive it slowly for a minute or two and then park up and turn it off as normal. If that wasn't the case, don't you think every manufacturer-built turbocharged car would have a turbo timer? The turbos spin at very high speed as you probably know and they need time to slow down as when you turn the car off the oil pump stops so there is no oil being pumped round the turbos. Manufacturers wouldn't install a turbo timer as the security risks would be a PITA. Toyota's recommendations are: Normal city driving - idling not necessary High speed driving 50 MPH - about 20 seconds High speed driving 63MPH - about 1 minute Steep mountain slopes or continued driving above 63 MPH - about 2 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) The turbos spin at very high speed as you probably know and they need time to slow down as when you turn the car off the oil pump stops so there is no oil being pumped round the turbos. Manufacturers wouldn't install a turbo timer as the security risks would be a PITA. Toyota's recommendations are: Normal city driving - idling not necessary High speed driving 50 MPH - about 20 seconds High speed driving 63MPH - about 1 minute Steep mountain slopes or continued driving above 63 MPH - about 2 minutes You're telling me that Toyota tells you to sit the car idling stationary for two minutes instead of cooling it down properly? I very much doubt that... It'll be far more efficient to cool the oil down using a slow run than it would to have a hot car sitting idle and soaking heat into the system. I understand you don't want to switch the car off right after a hard run so you don't starve the bearings in the turbos of oil, but I'd never leave a car running at idle for longer than is necessary. Edited July 28, 2011 by Gaz6002 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mplavery Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) You're telling me that Toyota tells you to sit the car idling stationary for two minutes instead of cooling it down properly? I very much doubt that... It'll be far more efficient to cool the oil down using a slow run than it would to have a hot car sitting idle and soaking heat into the system. I understand you don't want to switch the car off right after a hard run so you don't starve the bearings in the turbos of oil, but I'd never leave a car running at idle for longer than is necessary. When i had my Fiesta Turbo it said in the hand book to wait 1 min if driven hard before you turn the car off I have just bought a supra and I noticed that when i use to come back to my car, it use to always be unlocked. i was confused but after i just sat there and waited for the turbo timer to turn off and my car unlocked. can anyone help with this? its a blitz turbo timer On my car i can lock the car manually and when the turbo timer turns off it does stay locked My guess its a setting on your alarm which needs to be sorted, some are set to when you start the car it automatically locks and when you turn the car off it automatically opens Try taken it to someone who works on alarms and ask them to turn that option off and see if that works Edited July 28, 2011 by mplavery (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) You're telling me that Toyota tells you to sit the car idling stationary for two minutes instead of cooling it down properly? I very much doubt that... It'll be far more efficient to cool the oil down using a slow run than it would to have a hot car sitting idle and soaking heat into the system. I understand you don't want to switch the car off right after a hard run so you don't starve the bearings in the turbos of oil, but I'd never leave a car running at idle for longer than is necessary. There is a plaque on the inside of the centre console in my car and it also says it in the handbook. I am sure you have logic to back up your points but I am going to trust Toyota on this one. Edited July 28, 2011 by Tyson (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 There is a plaque on the inside of the centre console in my car and it also says it in the handbook. I am sure you have logic to back up your points but I am going to trust Toyota on this one. I have that too. Maybe it's just UK specs that have it. It says something along the lines of "Don't switch the engine off immediately after hard or uphill driving. Leave car to idle for 20-120 seconds before switching off depending on driving conditions". I'll get a picture of it up later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mplavery Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) I know someone in the Surrey area if your near how knows there stuff on alarms PM me if you want the details Edited July 28, 2011 by mplavery (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 it also says that in the repair manual guys. from mr t himself i pitty the fool that dont let the turbos cool i do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 it also says that in the repair manual guys. from mr t himself i pitty the fool that dont let the turbos cool i do! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I always take it easy for the last part of the journey, never rag it to the front door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp323/ZedR160/cb9ac0a4.jpg http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp323/ZedR160/28aa961f.jpg There's still no way I'd leave it idling for two minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 There's still no way I'd leave it idling for two minutes i know these petrol prices are a joke, i drive like my nan the last mile and 30 sec on turbo timer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 There's still no way I'd leave it idling for two minutes Do you have any material proof that this is bad for the engine? As if you have I would like to read it to make an informed decision. The last thing I want to be doing is creating excess wear or damaging the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 please sitting idling for 2 minutes after hard run is the least of its worries what about the hard run that it just done on the motorway. i think was gaz is saying that its beter to calmly drive the car the last bit of the journey, then to go full beans to the door and idle for 2 minutes and heat soak with no air flowing though radiators and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 please sitting idling for 2 minutes after hard run is the least of its worries what about the hard run that it just done on the motorway. i think was gaz is saying that its beter to calmly drive the car the last bit of the journey, then to go full beans to the door and idle for 2 minutes and heat soak with no air flowing though radiators and the like. As I said earlier I drive the last 5 or so miles steadily and let it idle for 30 - 60 seconds, basically as long as it take me to get out close the gate and get back to the car again. But I know what you mean, I was more interested in that he said idling the car is bad for it even though Toyota tell you to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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