ManwithSupra Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I don't understand this role model argument. Kids of yesteryear had terrible role models too. The likes of Jimi Hendrix and James Morrison (both 27 when they died and both in drugs related circumstances) were exactly the same. Perhaps the way the media portraits people these days is part of the problem but there are always going to be 'rockstars' and they will always be living in the fast line. Personally when I was young and impressionable the only people influencing me were my peers or people at my school smoking in the toilets. Certainly not people I saw on the tele. I agree that there were role models just as bad if not worse, however the media coverage was not there like it is today. If a celeb does something wrong its, on facebook, on every news channel on the telly, all over the net, on your smartphone blah blah etc etc, the exposure is far greater that it was.. say not even 10 years ago. Which in turn forces these "bad" habits on the younger generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I have absolutely no sympathy for her what so ever. She was a fool and a blew her life with excess and has paid the price. She was more famous for being a drugged up freak than for her music. I feel more sorry for her family who are left to pick up the pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 BBCs top ten news stories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 BBCs top ten news stories There is Higgs Bosun condensate in McFlurries??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 couldnt give a damn to be honest especially with the terriable news about Norway. The world wont be worse off with out her... Terriable role model for young fans etc.. I dont mean to sound harsh but she had everything, great voice, money, large fan base and people not giving up on her and she just through it all away! PSST! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 BBCs top ten news stories Thats based on most popular, what people have viewed, i wouldnt be ashamed at the bbc, id be ashamed at the public look at what came in at number 2....didnt even know she did songs (jk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Saw her at the IOW festival and she was brilliant, the duet with Jagger was a real moment but if you live a life of such unchecked excess you will get what's coming. A wasted talant but limited sympathy, a waste of a life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 A wasted life, of a bit of a waster. Back to Black was good, but I didn't rate any of her other songs (especially not the grating Rehab). She'll be remembered as a one-hit-wonder by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I don't understand this role model argument. Kids of yesteryear had terrible role models too. The likes of Jimi Hendrix and James Morrison (both 27 when they died and both in drugs related circumstances) were exactly the same. Perhaps the way the media portraits people these days is part of the problem but there are always going to be 'rockstars' and they will always be living in the fast line. Personally when I was young and impressionable the only people influencing me were my peers or people at my school smoking in the toilets. Certainly not people I saw on the tele. Diff was/is that Hendrix etc werent plastered all over the news and internet every day for kids to see, there may have been the odd pic of a Rolls in a pool or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 A wasted life, of a bit of a waster. She didn't waste her life. She created music that will be enjoyed by millions of people for many years to come. There are a lot of people on this board who will live to 70+ who will 'waste their lives' by producing nothing of interest to anyone else whatsoever. The poor girl was an drug addict, made worse by the pressures of fame and public scrutiny that she was ill-equipped to deal with. She and her family has my sympathy, as does anyone in her situation who dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 A loss of a life is sad, so condolences to her family. As for talent I always thought she was annoying and highly overrated. Imi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 She didn't waste her life. She created music that will be enjoyed by millions of people for many years to come. There are a lot of people on this board who will live to 70+ who will 'waste their lives' by producing nothing of interest to anyone else whatsoever. The poor girl was an drug addict, made worse by the pressures of fame and public scrutiny that she was ill-equipped to deal with. She and her family has my sympathy, as does anyone in her situation who dies. I see your point Gerald but I can't really agree. She was given a gift of life and also a gift of talent that was recognised by the Record Industry. I have seen a lot of talented singers get no where near the public recognition that she got. Once in that position (that most people would kill for), she then went of a booze and drug filled bender and died prematurely. Her quality of life would have been much better with more oportunities that most people see in their lifetime. That is a waste of a privaleged life...!! With that in mind I really have no sympathy. Her family, close friends and management have a lot to answer for. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Diff was/is that Hendrix etc werent plastered all over the news and internet every day for kids to see, there may have been the odd pic of a Rolls in a pool or something. And isn't that to do with how reporting of people has changed over the years rather than how they behaved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 And isn't that to do with how reporting of people has changed over the years rather than how they behaved? Defo. Celebrity gossip is big business. The sooner people get bored with it the better, but I can't see that ever happening. There are too many boneheads propping up the untalented that gain celebrity status on the basis that they were on Big Brother or something. I actually think we have got to a point that there are too many famous people..!! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Defo. Celebrity gossip is big business. Exactly. So the people with an ounce of talent will get talked about, battered in the press, followed, papped to within an inch of their life in every scenario (can you imagine being papped when you're falling out of a nightclub or hung over after a night out?) and eventually hated by the very people that fuelled the original furor. Whatever your musical tastes - she won 5 grammys in one night, a feat which has not been achieved by anyone else in this country - I can't think that is a waste of a life. I didn't know her as a person so can't comment on whether she was a pain in the arse or not. All I know is that I've encountered people that have had addictions in their lives and they have to want to help themselves and sometimes, the demon is too strong. Luckily for those people, they're afforded a private life. The people that say 'junkie' 'waster' whatever, need to wake up and look around this country. The rot set in a long long time ago, long before the likes of her were 'influencing' the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 The people that say 'junkie' 'waster' whatever, need to wake up and look around this country. The rot set in a long long time ago, long before the likes of her were 'influencing' the kids. True I agree that the rot set in a long time ago however celebs that are like Amy dont help do they. They definitely dont help the situation. I personally think that anyone that has large exposure to the media and gets convicted for offences related to drugs etc should not be allowed to continue with their career. At the end of the day she was a junkie there is no denying that, she chose to do hard drugs, no one forced her into doing it, and people like that should not be given the honour of media exposure even though it is bad publicity for the person in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Sad when we blame the lifestyle of some screwed up "celebs" for the failing of parenting, education and a strong family unit. Must be easy to pass the blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave finch Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 i dont feel sorry for her or her family its there fault for not getting a grip of her when she got in to trouble i know if my littke girl got in to any form of drugs id get a grip of her well before she got anywhere near that state i say its more the perents fault if she was raised properly then she would have never took that path in life same goes for non celeb druggies i think all drug dealers should be instantly killed anyways they ruin lives and familys no one would die from drug overdose if you took out the problem at source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Despite a persons upbringing its still their decision on whether to do drugs or not. Yes being brought up in a family that didn't care or support etc does not help the matter, however she still decided to turn to drugs and it ultimately killed her, It is sad that someone else has died due to drug abuse, but you make your bed and lie in it don't you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave finch Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Despite a persons upbringing its still their decision on whether to do drugs or not. Yes being brought up in a family that didn't care or support etc does not help the matter, however she still decided to turn to drugs and it ultimately killed her, It is sad that someone else has died due to drug abuse, but you make your bed and lie in it don't you. but any half decent perent would grip there kid nomatter how old they are if they got anywhere near that state i know my perents would even if they were 80 lol and i would for my daughter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attero Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I respect that fact that she died a human being which is sad, but I certainly do not have respect for her. Complete waste IMHO. RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 To all those who think she died from illegal drugs you're all wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 To all those who think she died from illegal drugs you're all wrong To be fair though, long term drug and alcohol abuse could still be a contributing factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Sad when we blame the lifestyle of some screwed up "celebs" for the failing of parenting, education and a strong family unit. Must be easy to pass the blame. Spot on imi, spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 To be fair though, long term drug and alcohol abuse could still be a contributing factor. Without a doubt & the strain the body goes through from withdrawal. Toxicology results have shown "no illegal substances" in Amy Winehouse's system at the time of her death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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