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I don't understand this role model argument. Kids of yesteryear had terrible role models too. The likes of Jimi Hendrix and James Morrison (both 27 when they died and both in drugs related circumstances) were exactly the same.

 

Perhaps the way the media portraits people these days is part of the problem but there are always going to be 'rockstars' and they will always be living in the fast line.

 

Personally when I was young and impressionable the only people influencing me were my peers or people at my school smoking in the toilets. Certainly not people I saw on the tele.

 

I agree that there were role models just as bad if not worse, however the media coverage was not there like it is today.

If a celeb does something wrong its, on facebook, on every news channel on the telly, all over the net, on your smartphone blah blah etc etc, the exposure is far greater that it was.. say not even 10 years ago. Which in turn forces these "bad" habits on the younger generation.

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couldnt give a damn to be honest especially with the terriable news about Norway.

 

The world wont be worse off with out her... Terriable role model for young fans etc..

 

I dont mean to sound harsh but she had everything, great voice, money, large fan base and people not giving up on her and she just through it all away! PSST!

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I don't understand this role model argument. Kids of yesteryear had terrible role models too. The likes of Jimi Hendrix and James Morrison (both 27 when they died and both in drugs related circumstances) were exactly the same.

 

Perhaps the way the media portraits people these days is part of the problem but there are always going to be 'rockstars' and they will always be living in the fast line.

 

Personally when I was young and impressionable the only people influencing me were my peers or people at my school smoking in the toilets. Certainly not people I saw on the tele.

 

Diff was/is that Hendrix etc werent plastered all over the news and internet every day for kids to see, there may have been the odd pic of a Rolls in a pool or something.

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A wasted life, of a bit of a waster.

 

She didn't waste her life. She created music that will be enjoyed by millions of people for many years to come.

 

There are a lot of people on this board who will live to 70+ who will 'waste their lives' by producing nothing of interest to anyone else whatsoever.

 

The poor girl was an drug addict, made worse by the pressures of fame and public scrutiny that she was ill-equipped to deal with. She and her family has my sympathy, as does anyone in her situation who dies.

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She didn't waste her life. She created music that will be enjoyed by millions of people for many years to come.

 

There are a lot of people on this board who will live to 70+ who will 'waste their lives' by producing nothing of interest to anyone else whatsoever.

 

The poor girl was an drug addict, made worse by the pressures of fame and public scrutiny that she was ill-equipped to deal with. She and her family has my sympathy, as does anyone in her situation who dies.

 

I see your point Gerald but I can't really agree. She was given a gift of life and also a gift of talent that was recognised by the Record Industry. I have seen a lot of talented singers get no where near the public recognition that she got. Once in that position (that most people would kill for), she then went of a booze and drug filled bender and died prematurely. Her quality of life would have been much better with more oportunities that most people see in their lifetime. That is a waste of a privaleged life...!!

 

With that in mind I really have no sympathy. Her family, close friends and management have a lot to answer for.

 

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Diff was/is that Hendrix etc werent plastered all over the news and internet every day for kids to see, there may have been the odd pic of a Rolls in a pool or something.

 

And isn't that to do with how reporting of people has changed over the years rather than how they behaved?

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And isn't that to do with how reporting of people has changed over the years rather than how they behaved?

 

Defo. Celebrity gossip is big business. The sooner people get bored with it the better, but I can't see that ever happening. There are too many boneheads propping up the untalented that gain celebrity status on the basis that they were on Big Brother or something. I actually think we have got to a point that there are too many famous people..!!

 

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Defo. Celebrity gossip is big business.

 

Exactly. So the people with an ounce of talent will get talked about, battered in the press, followed, papped to within an inch of their life in every scenario (can you imagine being papped when you're falling out of a nightclub or hung over after a night out?) and eventually hated by the very people that fuelled the original furor.

 

Whatever your musical tastes - she won 5 grammys in one night, a feat which has not been achieved by anyone else in this country - I can't think that is a waste of a life.

 

I didn't know her as a person so can't comment on whether she was a pain in the arse or not. All I know is that I've encountered people that have had addictions in their lives and they have to want to help themselves and sometimes, the demon is too strong. Luckily for those people, they're afforded a private life.

 

The people that say 'junkie' 'waster' whatever, need to wake up and look around this country. The rot set in a long long time ago, long before the likes of her were 'influencing' the kids.

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The people that say 'junkie' 'waster' whatever, need to wake up and look around this country. The rot set in a long long time ago, long before the likes of her were 'influencing' the kids.

 

True I agree that the rot set in a long time ago however celebs that are like Amy dont help do they. They definitely dont help the situation.

 

I personally think that anyone that has large exposure to the media and gets convicted for offences related to drugs etc should not be allowed to continue with their career.

 

At the end of the day she was a junkie there is no denying that, she chose to do hard drugs, no one forced her into doing it, and people like that should not be given the honour of media exposure even though it is bad publicity for the person in question.

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i dont feel sorry for her or her family its there fault for not getting a grip of her when she got in to trouble i know if my littke girl got in to any form of drugs id get a grip of her well before she got anywhere near that state

 

i say its more the perents fault if she was raised properly then she would have never took that path in life same goes for non celeb druggies

i think all drug dealers should be instantly killed anyways they ruin lives and familys no one would die from drug overdose if you took out the problem at source

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Despite a persons upbringing its still their decision on whether to do drugs or not. Yes being brought up in a family that didn't care or support etc does not help the matter, however she still decided to turn to drugs and it ultimately killed her, It is sad that someone else has died due to drug abuse, but you make your bed and lie in it don't you.

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Despite a persons upbringing its still their decision on whether to do drugs or not. Yes being brought up in a family that didn't care or support etc does not help the matter, however she still decided to turn to drugs and it ultimately killed her, It is sad that someone else has died due to drug abuse, but you make your bed and lie in it don't you.

 

but any half decent perent would grip there kid nomatter how old they are if they got anywhere near that state i know my perents would even if they were 80 lol and i would for my daughter

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To be fair though, long term drug and alcohol abuse could still be a contributing factor.

Without a doubt & the strain the body goes through from withdrawal.

 

Toxicology results have shown "no illegal substances" in Amy Winehouse's system at the time of her death
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