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Havard

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I bought the missus a Gen 7 Celica a couple of months ago.

 

Tonight the kids have been yanking the rear seatbelts as hard as they could and now one seems to be permanantly jammed. When you pull it, it moves a couple of inches and then locks as it would in an impact.

 

If I actually go to the trouble of taking the panels apart (this seems like a real PITA from what I can see) is there a way of releasing the ratchet?

 

I have posted up on the Celica owners club but I assume all Toyota seat belt systems are similar?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

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Thanks. Can a mod please close the thread as Pedrosixfour has sorted it.

 

It's not the ideal solution I know but I don't think there is a lot that can be done with an uncooperative belt, they are so sensitive by design anyway that once they stop working properly they are almost impossible to rectify properly. And would you really trust a belt that has had an issue?

 

The only other thing I can tell you is that they are designed to work in a particular position, if the kid's exertions have managed to knock one out of position then the rachet will engage straight away when the belt is pulled.

 

Either way it looks like the panels are coming off.

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It's not the ideal solution I know but I don't think there is a lot that can be done with an uncooperative belt, they are so sensitive by design anyway that once they stop working properly they are almost impossible to rectify properly. And would you really trust a belt that has had an issue?

 

The only other thing I can tell you is that they are designed to work in a particular position, if the kid's exertions have managed to knock one out of position then the rachet will engage straight away when the belt is pulled.

 

Either way it looks like the panels are coming off.

 

Yep, not overly optimistic on this one. The belt will not be pulled at all without the ratchet snapping. I am going to kill those kids if this turns out expensive. They have already been told that it is coming out of their Birthday/Christmas presents budget.

 

H.

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Has the actual retractor reel been turned away from the vertical with the constant tugging? They have bob weights inside that swing with lateral and longitudinal G force and lock the reel. It may be worth comparing the reel's attitude compared to the other side. I'd be tugging the kid's ear myself ;)

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Has the actual retractor reel been turned away from the vertical with the constant tugging? They have bob weights inside that swing with lateral and longitudinal G force and lock the reel. It may be worth comparing the reel's attitude compared to the other side. I'd be tugging the kid's ear myself ;)

 

This means I have to rip out the side panels in the car and start poking around. I have a habit of breaking things, especially plastic clips and things like that.

 

Mr M Life has offered to have a look.

 

H.

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It sounds to me that they have tugged at the belts so much that the ratchet doesn`t have enough slack belt to release itself. Try pulling the belt out slowly until you feel it tighten up, then pull as hard as you can. This should wind the belt tighter thus giving more slack to allow the ratchet to release. You won`t damage the ratchet, as it is designed to restrain many times your own body weight. Please don`t try to take the seatbelt mechanism apart, at best it will not go back together properly, at worst you`ll dislodge the large clock spring inside and and it will end up wrapped around something you didn`t want it to be!!

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It sounds to me that they have tugged at the belts so much that the ratchet doesn`t have enough slack belt to release itself. Try pulling the belt out slowly until you feel it tighten up, then pull as hard as you can. This should wind the belt tighter thus giving more slack to allow the ratchet to release. You won`t damage the ratchet, as it is designed to restrain many times your own body weight. Please don`t try to take the seatbelt mechanism apart, at best it will not go back together properly, at worst you`ll dislodge the large clock spring inside and and it will end up wrapped around something you didn`t want it to be!!

 

Cheers.

 

I have tried gently pulling on it and hoping it would release but it's having none of it. A guy on the Celica owners club (who is the equivalent of Keron on here) has one available. I was hoping not to have top take the car apart to replace the belt in it's entirity.

 

I just hoped that if I got to the belt ratchet there would be a button or swtich that would release it's grip on the belt and then we could start again.

 

H.

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How about unscrewing the fixed end of the belt where it anchors to the chassis, this could also give enough slack to release the ratchet mechanism.;)

 

There is play in the belt. Almost as soon as you pull it towards you, it locks up. The belt is stuck about 5" out of it's usual position. Unscrewing the fixed end wouldn't make much difference. It is also not retracting at all.

 

H.

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what side is it H i know of a wrapped gen 7, when i get back to camp i will go have a look at it and see if the belts are still there , some bugger has already made off with the front seats :(

 

Passenger side rear. Please steal some for me..!!

 

I have a price of £15 for one off the Celica club but in these hard times I would prefer for someone to commit theft in my name.

 

H.

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