Samurai 20V Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) Hello chaps.. I am almost complete with the BPU on my car, TRD single plate clutch and EBC will also be going in soon.. As I mentioned, my car is mainly for street use, occasional use on the track and drag strip. I am trying to decide whether spend some more cash on adjustable suspensions. Are TEIN coilovers worth the money? Search brings up differing opinions on here.. I was considering either Tein FLEX or Super steets. Opinions on these? I have OEM bilsteins and some unknown lowering spring, not sure if with my usuage I should upgrade? The car handles pretty good as is, and rides quite well... If I do buy, I dont want to break the bank...Should I consider any other brands, Cusco, JIC, HKS Hypermax? Thanks in advance. Edited July 18, 2011 by Samurai 20V (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I have Teins on mine, i love the setup its great and well worth the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 To be honest, I'd avoid the super streets if they're the same design as a few years back. Go for something dual perch and more suited to road use (not ideal, but more suited). I have MeisterR's on my Integra and it seems HSD's also come highly recommended. HKS and the likes seem highly thought of, but not for road use I wouldn't imagine. Have a search, there's plenty of info here already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 To be honest, I'd avoid the super streets if they're the same design as a few years back. Go for something dual perch and more suited to road use (not ideal, but more suited). I have MeisterR's on my Integra and it seems HSD's also come highly recommended. HKS and the likes seem highly thought of, but not for road use I wouldn't imagine. Have a search, there's plenty of info here already The search has been confusing me, some ppl say the TEINs are rubbish, others not... Mitchell, could you give some specifics on the Teins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GINNO78 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I Have Tein super streets...they have been on for 4 years still as good as new.....Had them adjusted last week as I wanted to lift the car a little and they adjusted no problem...some seize solid......the garage said the quality of these is very good....but I must admit with 19 inch alloys and with the coilovers on the softest setting its still quite a firm ride!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave finch Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 hsd's are pure awesome i really liked them on my s13 then my s14 and then my altezza and also had them on my r33 gtst guess what when i have funds hsd's for the supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 I Have Tein super streets...they have been on for 4 years still as good as new.....Had them adjusted last week as I wanted to lift the car a little and they adjusted no problem...some seize solid......the garage said the quality of these is very good....but I must admit with 19 inch alloys and with the coilovers on the softest setting its still quite a firm ride!! Thanks mate.. How is the handling with the Super Streets? Dave, looking to buy in Japan so HSD is not an option. Thanks for your input.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave finch Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 ahhh didnt see that lol well i had teins on the skyline to start with and hated them maybe try the cusco coilys? mate had them on an impreza and loved them guess it all comes down to the driver and there style of driving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Coilovers is such a misnomer, as stock suspension is coilover, coil spring over damper. Question is do you need adjustable suspension? If you dont just get minty fresh Bilsteins and some new springs at a rating of your choosing. If you werent in Japan Id say speak to Chris Wilson. Ive had Teins (harsh and crashy) JIC Magics (very supple yet firm) and HSD's (pretty good for a budget set up) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 Coilovers is such a misnomer, as stock suspension is coilover, coil spring over damper. Question is do you need adjustable suspension? If you dont just get minty fresh Bilsteins and some new springs at a rating of your choosing. If you werent in Japan Id say speak to Chris Wilson. Ive had Teins (harsh and crashy) JIC Magics (very supple yet firm) and HSD's (pretty good for a budget set up) Ok, I understand your point... I suppose adjustable suspension is a nice to have.. I am trying to determine which is brand is best suited to a road car used occasionally on a track.. The brands I would consider are - Tein - Cusco - JIC - HKS Hypermax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiFlash Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I'd go with Tein Flex as they are dual perched, the HSD's are based on these coilovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 You already have coilovers fitted, as do all Supra's Why are you thinking of changing - is you current spring/damper setup not meeting your requirements? How are they not meeting them? I.e. too much/too little spring rate, do you require a firmer damper adjust? Balancing issue? Too much front or rear roll? You can't just slap on a new set of aftermarket suspension, they all need to be setup for your requirements. Without knowing which areas you want adjust it's a bit of a waste of money to start replacing parts at random. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 You already have coilovers fitted, as do all Supra's Why are you thinking of changing - is you current spring/damper setup not meeting your requirements? How are they not meeting them? I.e. too much/too little spring rate, do you require a firmer damper adjust? Balancing issue? Too much front or rear roll? You can't just slap on a new set of aftermarket suspension, they all need to be setup for your requirements. Without knowing which areas you want adjust it's a bit of a waste of money to start replacing parts at random. Thanks Homer, I am up to speed with the terminology now! Honestly speaking, I havent pushed the car to the limits to pin point the actual setup that I want out of the car... The car handles fine at the moment, when I point it into a corner it goes through at a reasonably quick speed, without any drama. I need to get some track time in to check the weakness on the car with the current setup (OEM Bilsteins and some lowering springs). The reason I was thinking of changing was purely because there some good deals that I have come across for adjustable suspension, TEIN in particular. Hence I was trying to determine which brand would be best to go for considering the car is essentially a street car used occasionally on the track and drag strip... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I would first get the all the OEM suspension arms, bushes, joints, etc. checked for wear and replace with brand new OEM parts where needed, I would then get the geometry/alignment done, these things can make a huge difference to the ride quality, traction and handling. After doing that if you are not happy with the damping and springs fitted then I would look at alternatives. Did you fit 19" wheels in the end? If so dump them and fit some 17's/18's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) I would first get the all the OEM suspension arms, bushes, joints, etc. checked for wear and replace with brand new OEM parts where needed, I would then get the geometry/alignment done, these things can make a huge difference to the ride quality, traction and handling. After doing that if you are not happy with the damping and springs fitted then I would look at alternatives. Did you fit 19" wheels in the end? If so dump them and fit some 17's/18's I had the car up on the ramp this weekend, the suspension bushes etc looked in good nick with a quick visual check, however I will send it for a proper check for these items.. Alignment will be done soon, as I did order 19 inch wheels... Sorry Nic, just love the look of the 19's... I still have my OEM 17s on which I will be slapping some decent rubber on for the really aggressive driving... But I think you are right, I will look at the adjustable stuff as a last option... Any recommendations on a brand? Edited July 18, 2011 by Samurai 20V (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Any recommendations on a brand? If buying in Japan I'd go with any of these Tein Mono Flex HKS Hypermax III Ohlins PCV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Service Manual - Suspension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 If buying in Japan I'd go with any of these Tein Mono Flex HKS Hypermax III Ohlins PCV Thanks Nic.. Will be on the lookout for these... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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