BOO - Failed MOT :(

[JS2004]

Had mine in for MOT recently and its failed on the following

 

Headlights - Wrong colour (I have HIDs, but theyre the white ones not the blue ones). I have put normal yellow bulbs in to rectify.

Headlights - Angle - Could be because of the HIDs that were in , hopefully the good ol yellow 55w should fix that.

 

Rear fog light - Red light not being emitted - fixed by painting bulb, but ive bought another bulb from ultraleds which ill fit and that should sort that out.

 

Rear nearside shock absorber serious leak - 2nd hand one from Keron en route to be fitted.

 

Emissions - Failed on the lamba sensor reading

 

 

Its a 1994 J spec N/A, with both cats in, standard engine zero modifications - Ive read somewhere that they are supposed to be tested against default values, but im not sure what the testing station is running it against.

 

Is there anything I can do to rectify this? Ive ordered replacement lamba sensors from Keron and ill have them fitted in - but some sort of fuel cleaner was suggested by the garage and relatives.. I know its only an N/A but will this be detrimental to the engine?

 

Any nice tips of how to get its emissions down are appreciated - its been stood for a while too, which may explain some of it but would the solution to this be to just leave it on until up to temp and then rev it a fair bit for a period of time to clear it out?

 

Cheers guys

Edited July 6, 2011 by JS2004 (see edit history)

[probrox]

Mine is decatted and is in for its MOT this afternoon. The MOT place i use are pretty friendly, but i'll be taking it for a hard run before hand to ensure the engine is hot and that the emissions are as low as possible.

[probrox]

Just passed my MOT. As a 1994 import you're car should be unclassified for the emissions test apparently. Mine failed initially but was then put through as a 1994 as it was wrong on the computer.

[Paul372]

mine passed with flying colour not one thing wrong with it happy days

[cje001]

Just passed my MOT. As a 1994 import you're car should be unclassified for the emissions test apparently. Mine failed initially but was then put through as a 1994 as it was wrong on the computer.

 

What does this mean mate?

 

Mine is a "93 decatted TT import - does that mean no emissions test?

[JS2004]

It failed on the lambda reading after the cat, was out of the tolerance by 0.03 bugger.. maybe its down to it just being started up, driven literally 300 yards and then tested?

[neo2810]

It's nearly impossible for a '94 NA to fail immissions. They probably selected the 2JZ-GTE option instead of 2JZ-GE (your NA) which would have defaulted to the Decat Import option (as the import GE engine is not listed) which has a much higher tolerance. My '93 NA is a double decat, custom exhaust, custom manifold, custom intake and it was still nowhere near the emmission limits.

Edited July 10, 2011 by neo2810 (see edit history)

[Purity14]

Mine is a 96 facelift with a decat, and it sailed through.

[Havard]

Mine is a 96 facelift with a decat, and it sailed through.

 

So did mine when I had one.

 

*Can you please not put BOO in the thread titles as it can upset the easily scared*

 

H.

[Hellstrom]

Well it failed on Lambda reading, and if it fail on that i would take a look at whats wrong instead. Lambda mesures the air/fuel ratio in the exhaust. so if thats wrong then its either goes to lean, or drinks more fuel then it should.

[a98pmalcolm]

My car magicly turned into a 307 for its emission tests lol

[jackso11]

My car magicly turned into a 307 for its emission tests lol

 

Cop, Paste, and off to the DVLA

[Robzki]

Emissions test?

 

[Guest ugp]

It's nearly impossible for a '94 NA to fail immissions. They probably selected the J2Z-GTE option instead of J2Z-GE (your NA) which would have defaulted to the Decat Import option (as the import GE engine is not listed) which has a much higher tolerance. My '93 NA is a double decat, custom exhaust, custom manifold, custom intake and it was still nowhere near the emmission limits.

 

Your car got put through as a back hander though Tony

Edited July 9, 2011 by ugp (see edit history)

[JS2004]

Ive got some new lambda sensors installed (Well, 2nd hand ones from Keron) and sorted the shock and the rear fog light out..

 

But now im being pulled up on the headlights! One has condensation inside - so I can see the issue, but ive cleaned it out as much as possible and although the lense is plastic I did polish it up with some plastrx. So ive swapped that headlight over for a spare one in the garage.

 

The other headlight is now being pulled up for the beam being angled incorrectly - not sure how as ive never fiddled with that and it passed the last two MOTs with that exact headlight in perfectly fine!

 

Its beginning to get rather annoying! If they were excessively deteriorated I would understand but theyre not =/

[neo2810]

Ive got some new lambda sensors installed (Well, 2nd hand ones from Keron) and sorted the shock and the rear fog light out..

 

But now im being pulled up on the headlights! One has condensation inside - so I can see the issue, but ive cleaned it out as much as possible and although the lense is plastic I did polish it up with some plastrx. So ive swapped that headlight over for a spare one in the garage.

 

The other headlight is now being pulled up for the beam being angled incorrectly - not sure how as ive never fiddled with that and it passed the last two MOTs with that exact headlight in perfectly fine!

 

Its beginning to get rather annoying! If they were excessively deteriorated I would understand but theyre not =/

 

Different garage?

[JS2004]

The garage doing the work is sound - but they are using a testing centre which appears to go through stages of being "uber strict" with everything then going the opposite way - perhaps theyve been checked recently by VOSA?

 

Tried some STP fuel system cleaner, new sensors, sorted headlight beams out.. fingers crossed!!

 

But then its tax and insurance time

[ilicos]

http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?221716-Latest-car-gone-for-MOT-and-Decat-fit-this-morning&p=2806305

 

 

Read my post (No 10)

[JS2004]

Cheers Ilicos, I am going to print that out and take it to the MOT station myself if it fails again. Theyre pretty much having a bit of a joke at my expense with this. Headlight issue is annoying too, its hardly yellow because I polish it regularly yet theyre pulling it on that.. grr.

 

But non the less, extremely useful info - thank you

[a98pmalcolm]

Cop, Paste, and off to the DVLA

 

Then i woke up and it was all a dream!

[neo2810]

Your car got put through as a back hander though Tony

 

Ah yes, but he said it passed emissions legit

[JS2004]

Ive booked it back in for a retest at the first garage, but called them to speak to the MOT testing guys.

 

I used the PDF File Ilicos provided to follow the flow diagram and gave the guys the page number I was looking at, and that it should be getting through as a non-cat test. I reckon, as has been pointed out, that theyre just putting the computer on and picking the 2jz-gte engine.

 

Unfortunately I now have to wait until Thursday.. getting more annoying than anything really.

 

If they fail it again, I plan on contacting VOSA about it provided that its not an actual fail against the correct test - i.e. if theyre putting it through as the wrong engine still then I wont be happy at all.

 

Not sure if VOSA can do anything mind, but im annoyed enough to do it out of principle at the moment.

[ilicos]

Emissions tests are carried out according to engine model not car model. Therefore if they test you on the GTE they are in breach of the rules and you will have good cause to report them.

 

My advice is to be as clear as possible with them that the GTE engine and GE engine are NOT the same.

[JS2004]

That's pretty much the course of action I have taken. Their guy isn't back while Thursday now though, so ill call up on thurs too so that I ensure they test it as a ge and not a gte. That pdf was quite handy!