j_jza80 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Shamelessly taken from another forum: There are to be some changes to the MOT test from 1st January 2012 which are being introduced in response to European Commission Directive 2010/48/EU of the 5th July 2010 and which will effect those with aftermarket HID headlights and remapped ECUs: 4.1.4 Compliance with requirements: (a) Lamp, emitted colour, position or intensity not in accordance with the requirements (b) Products on lens or light source which obviously reduce light intensity or change emitted colour © Light source and lamp not compatible 4.1.5. Levelling devices (where mandatory): (a) Device not operating. (b) Manual device cannot be operated from driver’s seat. 4.1.6 Headlamp cleaning device (where mandatory): Device not operating. For anyone with a remap, section 6.1.9 may be relevant. 6.1.9 Engine performance: (a) Control unit illegal modified. (b) Illegal engine modification. (by 'illegal', it is assumed that they mean changed/programmed differently from OEM specifications) There will also be a new check on the general condition of the wiring: 4.11. Electrical wiring (a) Wiring insecure or not adequately secured. (b) Wiring deteriorated. © Damaged or deteriorated insulation and on the function of airbag and seat belt pre-tensioner systems: 7.1.4. Safety belt Pre-tensioners: Pre-tensioner obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle. 7.1.5. Airbag: (a) Airbags obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle. (b) Airbag obviously non-operative. 7.1.6. SRS Systems: SRS MIL indicates any kind of failure of the system. to be honest, I couldn't care less about HIDs, but the ECU mapping would obviously be quite a problem for many of us. Can anyone confirm wether this information is accurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Now tell me, who will be able to check if your ECU was mapped or changed at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezzler Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 6.1.9(b) - Wonder what counts as illegal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 Now tell me, who will be able to check if your ECU was mapped or changed at all? Exactly what I've been pondering. Especially where imports are concerned. IMO there's no way they'll be able to police it, unless it's going to start with fairly recent cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 The first steps in bringing the UK into line with those European countries who do not allow any engine modifications or swaps. It won't affect older cars... but eventually you won't be able to drive old cars anyway, except under tightly controlled circumstances, so it won't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephendjb Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I think the emissions thing will apply to cars where the road tax is governed by the emissions level & the car clearly doesn't have OEM emissions. So it won't apply to any of our cars anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoooby slayer Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 The first steps in bringing the UK into line with those European countries who do not allow any engine modifications or swaps. It won't affect older cars... but eventually you won't be able to drive old cars anyway, except under tightly controlled circumstances, so it won't matter. it will never happen, new cars will get tighter and tighter on rules but older cars cannot and will not ever have to conform to those rules. old cars wont get ruled out either there such a minority in numbers its never going to be relevant, and rightly so if they tried to change rules for older stuff lots of civil engieering companys would go bust for a start as all there machines would be scrap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Brett Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 yep but eventually those older cars will rot/break/be so out of date that everyone will have to get newer ones eventually. As previously said, some EU countries dont allow any engine mods at all so its a matter of time if we stay in the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) It will never happen. New cars will get tighter and tighter on rules but older cars cannot and will not ever have to conform to those rules. Old cars won't get ruled out either, they're such a minority in numbers it's never going to be relevant, and rightly so. If they tried to change rules for older stuff lots of civil engineering companies would go bust for a start as all their machines would be scrap. You think so? http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/bike-ban-in-french-cities/17766.html France's Ecology Minister Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet has proposed a ban on older bikes and cars in eight French cities from 2012 onwards according to French newspaper le Parisien. When we say “older” we're not talking about smoky old strokers but any bike made before 1 July 2004, which would actually account for a large proportion of the entire motorcycle population. Cars get off a bit lighter, with anything made since 1997 still given the OK. France > EU > UK Edited July 5, 2011 by garethr (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoooby slayer Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 You think so? http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/bike-ban-in-french-cities/17766.html France's Ecology Minister Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet has proposed a ban on older bikes and cars in eight French cities from 2012 onwards according to French newspaper le Parisien. When we say “older” we're not talking about smoky old strokers but any bike made before 1 July 2004, which would actually account for a large proportion of the entire motorcycle population. Cars get off a bit lighter, with anything made since 1997 still given the OK. France > EU > UK its just a proposal it doesnt mean didly squat, itl never get passed think about it how can they, 100s of 1000s of vehicles have to be scrapped or exported to a country that can still use them, it wont happen just more greenys trying to do there bit. think about it some more, there will be no more classic cars, it cannot and will not ever happen imo, there would be massive uproar if it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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