nick_karkie Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Hi everyone, I am new to the site. I bought the black T-reg jap supra from mark partridge back in august and I need a little technical help if anyone is willing to offer. I'm getting some new wheels and I need to know whether wheels made to fit a jap supra also fit a jap supra with the bigger english brake pads.....if anyone can help I would appreciate it. thanx Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Ah this question again. Can I recommend the search facility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_karkie Posted January 18, 2003 Author Share Posted January 18, 2003 john, u gotta remember i am new and never been in any forum b4 haha......so how do i use the search, thanks for replying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 You need 17" wheels with the correct offset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_karkie Posted January 18, 2003 Author Share Posted January 18, 2003 OK thorin thanks, but lets say I bought some wheels that were 18" and meant for a jap supra,what effect do the bigger brake pads have on the offset......I have very little knowledge about cars apart from driving them haha cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_karkie Posted January 18, 2003 Author Share Posted January 18, 2003 i had some 19"inch wheels on the car but they required spaces because the bolt pattern was wrong, but this caused a big problem because after a few months the tyres started to come off from the inside of the back wheels....and obviously buying new wheels I dont want this to happen again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Stock 17" wheel sizes are... Front : 17" diameter, 8.0" wide, with a 50mm offset Rear : 17" diameter, 9.5" wide, with a 50mm offset These will fit fine over UK spec brakes. 18" wheels should be the same offset unless you're getting some really wide ones I think (I had to ask about offsets recently too as I wasn't sure). I have 18" wheels on mine and like you have spacers on the back as the offset's wrong Tyre wear seems ok though. Can't afford new wheels at the moment but when I do I'll probably be going for half an inch extra width front and rear so I can fit some wider tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovatt Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 I went looking for wheels today and had loads of hastle, some shops wouldnt offer any wheels at all ! i went to wheel mania and they were very helpful, i chose the 18" k2 wheel they told me it would fit over my j-spec brakes and when i told them i was gonna upgrade to uk-spec brakes they told me to come back and they would sort it out, i thought they were gonna put spacers on but when i asked it is a proper extended part to your hub that is especially for the mkiv. if you are gonna get wheels and tyres i cant express how good the pirreli pzero tyre is !! it has transformed my car completly in the wet, it grips even on slippy islands my brakes are better and i thought i had a wheel bearing out but it was the crap tyres i had on before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 This issue of offset crops up again. The offset alone does not determine whether the rim will clear the caliper. The shape and thickness of the spokes is a major factor. When I did mine I fitted the calipers and then tried the rims. I found I needed a thin spacer. I use 5mm (or are they 6mm) although the actual problem was only 2mm but practically you can't use a spacer that thin. The UK 4 pot calipers are a lot thicker than the J-spec sliding ones so fit the calipers before buying the rims. That way you can try the rims against the hubs befroe buying. Alternatively find a fellow Supra owner with the UK brakes and try your rims on their car. The problem is only at the front because it's not worth changing the back brakes. they required spaces because the bolt pattern was wrong I don't follow this. a proper extended part to your hub or this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_karkie Posted January 19, 2003 Author Share Posted January 19, 2003 well the bolts did not line up with the holes so german hub locator spacers were required to change where the bolts were fitted....and this caused a massive problem for my back tyres....the inside was actually coming away from the rim...and the guy at jet tyres told me it would happen every 3 or 4 months because of the spacers.......I had quite thick spacers....but it never caused a problem with the front tyres. The problem I have is that I wanna buy my wheels from the states cause they have a great wheel and tyre package for top quality wheels...only coat about £1200 including shipping for racinghart wheels....and I cant find these wheels in England....even if I could they would still be cheaper to ship them over. Does anyone know a decent place for reasonably priced alloys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_karkie Posted January 19, 2003 Author Share Posted January 19, 2003 lovatt, the 19" wheels i had on which caused me all the problems were wheelmania MRD'S i think...but the fucking assholes sent me celica fitment wheels instead of supra...then to correct this they sent me the german hub locator spacers......but they didnt even include the right bolts with the spacers. I still have the wheels if anyone has a celica or knows anyone with a celica...and I will give them away very cheap...a few hundred quid.....and 2 of them have new tyres...well all 4 do but the back ones have come away from the rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted January 19, 2003 Share Posted January 19, 2003 only cost about £1200 including shipping Don't forget you'll have to pay duty & VAT which will add over 20% minimum. Also be wary of US spec tyres, I don't know if there's a legal issue here but it's highly likely the compound won't be any use with British wet weather. german hub locator spacers These sound very worrying. I wouldn't even go in a car with this sort of kit. Sorry to hear you've been shafted. Hope you get it sorted. The only safe way is to try the wheels on the car before parting with the cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOR Racing Posted January 19, 2003 Share Posted January 19, 2003 I've got 18" Speedline Aliseo Corse wheels on my Supra and they have the correct 50m offsets and fit over the UK brakes. I've got a Jap import and fitted both the front and rear UK brake kit. (and I like the fact I have the UK rears as well) I tried fitting the wheels over the 6pot AP racing brakes but due to the wheel being a true three piece wheel the nuts on the back holding the centre to the rim interfered with the caliper. I would have had to move the wheel out by 5mm to miss. I never liked the idea of spacers and changing offsets. Just changing to 9" fronts from the 8" stock and 10" rear from the 9" stocks was enough to get a change. Offsetting them more was a no no in my book. Also a note that you really do need to get the correct width and offsets (or at least the ratio of the rears being wider than the fronts) The MkIII Supra had same front and rear but the MkI is designed to run larger rears to fronts and it'd look silly if you didn't have large rear wheels. Often these wheel places will sell you four of the same width and wrong offsets. Don't be tempted because they look good and are cheap! I fit Pirelli PZero Rossos (even better than the normal PZeros). 285*30*18 (Rear) and 245*40*18 (front) (I think.. or were they 45's ?? I'd have to go and tale a look) In fact a good bloke to try is Peter Ormrod from Performance Wheel Supplies. http://www.performancewheelsupplies.ltd.uk Regards Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_karkie Posted January 19, 2003 Author Share Posted January 19, 2003 thanks for your help guys.....I think I'll stay british and listen to your advice, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_karkie Posted January 19, 2003 Author Share Posted January 19, 2003 thanks for your help guys.....I think I'll stay british and listen to your advice, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrar Jabbar Posted January 19, 2003 Share Posted January 19, 2003 Nick, I can supply wheels with the correct offset and width. If there is any thing I can help you with please let me know. Have a look at: http://www.pro-alloys.co.uk There is a few other wheels I can supply now, pm me for updated list. Regards Ibrar Jabbar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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