sammytruck Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 I guess we are reading it differently, I didn't read it as implying the driver was from anywhere in particular. The reference was to describe the previous incident. i took it that every now and then an incident arises that demonstrates the heartlessness and callous behaviour of some drivers......they do tend to stick in the memory somewhere..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Apparently they were playing in the woods that back onto the road. The boy that was killed decided he was hungry and wanted to go home early so therefore tried to cross the road. I personally wouldn't have allowed my child to play near that road, it's very busy, very hard to see over the brow of the hill on that particular side and with no clear crossing markers. So, the parents dumped their kid in a dangerous place "to play". Right. Maybe the parents should be made to pay for the repairs to the car for their bad parenting. At age 6, I wasn't allowed out of our street alone, and was rigorously drilled on the dangers of crossing the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I suspect we are. Considering that the immediate response to the post was to refer to law in another country about stringing the guy up - clearly it wasn't just me that read it that way. My comment was in relation to the Iraqi guy that left the girl under the wheel of his car. Thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Thought so. Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I suspect we are. Considering that the immediate response to the post was to refer to law in another country about stringing the guy up - clearly it wasn't just me that read it that way. So, the parents dumped their kid in a dangerous place "to play". Right. Maybe the parents should be made to pay for the repairs to the car for their bad parenting. At age 6, I wasn't allowed out of our street alone, and was rigorously drilled on the dangers of crossing the road. That could have been a possible scenario of the person hadn't done a runner. The fact that he left the kid to die makes it far more serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 At age 6, I wasn't allowed out of our street alone, and was rigorously drilled on the dangers of crossing the road. Same here. We lived in a cul-de-sac and weren't even allowed onto the top road which was part of another very quiet road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kill1308 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Same here. We lived in a cul-de-sac and weren't even allowed onto the top road which was part of another very quiet road. +1.... not that it changes the fact that this is an awfully tragic event, I see so many young kids wandering around the streets that to me, look too young to be out on their own without proper supervision. It is easy to speculate without knowing the full facts of the story, but I suspect that this fact may unfortunately play on the parents minds. I wasn't allowed out of my close without my parents (again a cul-de-sac) until I was about 10 or 11 iirc. Still, it's a deeply saddening story and I sincerely hope they find out who did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Still, it's a deeply saddening story and I sincerely hope they find out who did it. Oh absolutely - it's a terribly tragic story. I hope the man comes forward after he's seen sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 As a lot of you guy's, When I was 6 my family lived on a (very quiet and small) cul-de-sac and I was never allowed to leave it, my parents would of never allowed me to go anywhere near a main road when I was that age. So yes, I do think the parents were irresponsible, it was a tragic accident that could of been avoided easily. To look at it in another way though, with some of our rediculous laws where a pedestrian can just step into the road straight in front of a car where the driver who is well within the speed limit and has no possible time to react, still gets prosecuted for manslaughter/murder. So the driver could of actually of done nothing wrong, but the panic of getting sent down caused them to do a runner. I am in no way condoning what they did, as I don't, it was wrong (morally wrong more than anything), but just thought I would put a different angle on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Arent we all a pre-judgemental bunch !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Jesus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 He won't help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammytruck Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Arent we all a pre-judgemental bunch !! not much to pre-judge here, is there ?............hit a child, stop when around first corner to check damage on car......then foxtrot oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 There has been one arrest- lets hope they caught the perpetrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I know he was. I just wondered why the origins of the driver were brought up. Because Charlotte it is a fact that other cultures etc value human life a lot less than we do, when I was in Spain I have seen a Lithuanian pimp try to kill someone over the smallest thing using a samurai sword, he thought nothing of it at all, they are very hard to death and suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Because Charlotte it is a fact that other cultures etc value human life a lot less than we do, when I was in Spain I have seen a Lithuanian pimp try to kill someone over the smallest thing using a samurai sword, he thought nothing of it at all, they are very hard to death and suffering. That's a sweeping generalisation if I ever read one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammytruck Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Please ..please please........lets not get on a racial or cultural tack, thats not what the orig post was about...i always seem to see my own children in these situations and it really really made me feel sick......to think someone could just leave this child.....i'll say it again...unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 That's a sweeping generalisation if I ever read one. No thats an observation, fact if you see a multiple pile upin Spain the cops will move the bodies etc to the side to get the traffic moving, prob with a cigarette hanging out of their mouth, in Morroco even worse, Albanians absolutly ruthless and viscious and will think nothing of hurting a whole family inc kids, Indian's killing and maiming their daughters and sisters for going against an arranged marriage, its not racist so don't go jumping on that bandwagon its a fact other cultures respect life a lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 they got him apparantly he got out of his car to see if there was any damage then just drove off what a ba****d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 No thats an observation, fact if you see a multiple pile upin Spain the cops will move the bodies etc to the side to get the traffic moving, prob with a cigarette hanging out of their mouth, in Morroco even worse, Albanians absolutly ruthless and viscious and will think nothing of hurting a whole family inc kids, Indian's killing and maiming their daughters and sisters for going against an arranged marriage, its not racist so don't go jumping on that bandwagon its a fact other cultures respect life a lot less. I didn't mention anything about racism. I'm just saying its a seeping generalisation which you say are based on YOUR observations. The thing is, its completely and utterly incorrect in my opinion that other cultures respect life a lot less than white English people in the UK or the West in general. People in the Middle East, Africa or Asia would all have just as much sympathy for what happened to this poor child. My uncle is a member of counter-terrorism unit. I have seen pictures and videos that would make your skin crawl. In fact, I still remember a picture of him standing over a corpse that had been blown to bits, and my uncle holding a Simpsons mug drinking tea. Now someone like you would say that is just sick. He clearly doesn't value human life as much as we do. Thing is, he would feel just as saddened as the rest of us hearing this news but circumstances are different abroad. We only 'value' life the way we do here is because we aren't surrounded by the nonsense other countries are. Why other countries are in such a state not necessarily a reflection of a reduced perception of value in a human life. Life doesn't operate in a vacuum. If I were to make a sweeping statement I could say English people are a bunch of softies who talk about the value of human life yet scarcely any of them have encountered death in a real form. (I don't believe this by the way but I'm just highlighting the problem with generalisations). The reason I think race came into question here, and I suspect Charlotte thinks the same, is that people want a reason to explain why it happened, an identifiable person affiliated with a certain group. It's human nature. Some call it racism but I don't know whether I would call it that. But it helps people comprehend what happened by blaming it on group of people supposedly completely different to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookey Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 This is absolutely disgusting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 So, the parents dumped their kid in a dangerous place "to play". Right. Maybe the parents should be made to pay for the repairs to the car for their bad parenting. You idiot. You utter, compasion free fool. I hope you don't ever have a kid that gets killed in that way because I will throw your comments back at you in the blink of an eye. People like you make me sick. FWIW this happened about four miles from where I live. We drive that road many times each week and since then we haven't. It'd just be too sad to drive past the flowers and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I didn't mention anything about racism. I'm just saying its a seeping generalisation which you say are based on YOUR observations. The thing is, its completely and utterly incorrect in my opinion that other cultures respect life a lot less than white English people in the UK or the West in general. People in the Middle East, Africa or Asia would all have just as much sympathy for what happened to this poor child. My uncle is a member of counter-terrorism unit. I have seen pictures and videos that would make your skin crawl. In fact, I still remember a picture of him standing over a corpse that had been blown to bits, and my uncle holding a Simpsons mug drinking tea. Now someone like you would say that is just sick. He clearly doesn't value human life as much as we do. Thing is, he would feel just as saddened as the rest of us hearing this news but circumstances are different abroad. We only 'value' life the way we do here is because we aren't surrounded by the nonsense other countries are. Why other countries are in such a state not necessarily a reflection of a reduced perception of value in a human life. Life doesn't operate in a vacuum. If I were to make a sweeping statement I could say English people are a bunch of softies who talk about the value of human life yet scarcely any of them have encountered death in a real form. (I don't believe this by the way but I'm just highlighting the problem with generalisations). The reason I think race came into question here, and I suspect Charlotte thinks the same, is that people want a reason to explain why it happened, an identifiable person affiliated with a certain group. It's human nature. Some call it racism but I don't know whether I would call it that. But it helps people comprehend what happened by blaming it on group of people supposedly completely different to us. Why would you think I would say thats sick, death does not bother me at all especially when its not mine, and yes you are correct the english as a whole have and never will experience death outside of the norm as in old uncle Albert popped his clogs in his sleep some on the other hand have seen things that should not be spoken about about. I do not shock much, prob not at all, I have seen and been involved with many diff things in my 47 years and this is an observation, as a nation we are weak and not used to death and the realities of life, some cultures are not, most 3rd world cultures accept death as a daily occurence hence having so many kids, my mrs used to live in singapore and when a native dies they normally display the body outside of a shop or house for a few days, you are obviously a tad on the sensitive side so I will leave you in case you have a panic attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts