Pero Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I know this must have been posted a thousand times before, so I apologise in advance. I currently drive a 350bhp Fiat Coupe and really love it as it's the first turbo car I've owned. I've always thought Supras had incredible road presence and always wanted to own one. With the future looking good for the missus and I, I might be able to afford one soon. I'd ideally like a single, as it will be stored away and only be driven over weekends if the weather was good as I'm after 500bhp+. I've noticed that the singles sell for a lot more than good t/t's, so here is my question. What is involved in converting a t/t to a single? And why do singles go for so much more? I can only assume the engine internals have to be forged to handle the increase in power etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Knowing that this has been covered a thousand times, did you actually use the search? There are MANY threads on this very subject, from projects to shopping lists, all covering exactly what you are after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky49 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) If I was you I'd buy one already done. I didn't and I converted my TT which was really enjoyable and I loved the build as it progressed but I must of done close to 18k plus the price of the car already. I run stock internals on 644 rwhp ( how long for who knows). You can convert a single on about 10k if your wise in your choices. You could get a nice singles for 15k+. Good luck with road you choose to go down. Edited June 19, 2011 by Ricky49 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyh_15 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I know this must have been posted a thousand times before, so I apologise in advance. I currently drive a 350bhp Fiat Coupe and really love it as it's the first turbo car I've owned. I've always thought Supras had incredible road presence and always wanted to own one. With the future looking good for the missus and I, I might be able to afford one soon. I'd ideally like a single, as it will be stored away and only be driven over weekends if the weather was good as I'm after 500bhp+. I've noticed that the singles sell for a lot more than good t/t's, so here is my question. What is involved in converting a t/t to a single? And why do singles go for so much more? I can only assume the engine internals have to be forged to handle the increase in power etc? Read a few of the build threads in the project cars section. 500BHP and you won't need to forge the internals. They go for so much more because to build a good reliable single costs a lot more than buying one that's already been done. Get some pictures of your fiat up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pero Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 Knowing that this has been covered a thousand times, did you actually use the search? There are MANY threads on this very subject, from projects to shopping lists, all covering exactly what you are after. I knew someone would say this, but I was too lazy to go through the posts. I'm surprised that you can run that sort of power on stock internals and even more so that you've spent £18k and still didn't forge the engine!! I will have to see what costs so much, bloody hell. Here are some pics of the Coupe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky49 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 That was the cost of the whole car makeover. Turbo kit and turn and £3500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) What is involved in converting a t/t to a single? Turbo kit, fueling upgrades, transmission upgrades, valvetrain upgrades, ECU/mapping, cooling upgrades, exhaust, electronics, gauges, etc. etc. A basic, reliable 500-600hp conversion using quality parts (not cheap ebay crap) will cost £10K+. And why do singles go for so much more? Because of the above. If buying a converted single Supra I would want to know exactly what has been done to it, see receipts for work done and know who had done the work. As Supra prices drop there seem to be more and more conversions being done on a tight budget using cheap poor quality parts, if you don't know what you're looking for, buying a converted single turbo Supra is a big risk and could turn into a huge money pit to put right. I can only assume the engine internals have to be forged to handle the increase in power etc? A stock engine in good condition can handle 600+hp, most Supras have a decent number of miles on them now though, so a rebuild with stock/aftermarket parts would be advisable. Edited June 19, 2011 by Nic (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Gaz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Basically you pay more for the thoasands that someone pumped into it making it single, if your looking to buy a look in the classifieds here, you will find some of the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pero Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 Very useful info Nic, thanks. Gaz, I've certainly looked through the classifieds, but as Nic said, I would want to make 100% sure what I'm buying if I decide to do so. I've been looking into turbo'd S2000's as they can be very powerful, but very few people in the UK seem to go down that route - not sure why as there are loads in the US. So then, how reliable would a 600bhp single be? Taking into account it won't be used as an everyday car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) So then, how reliable would a 600bhp single be? If built and mapped by someone who knows what they are doing, using quality parts, then they can be very reliable, in fact a single turbo setup is a whole lot simpler than the stock sequential system, so far less to go wrong. However there is a huge difference between a properly built single turbo Supra and one that has just had a big turbo and a few shiny bits nailed onto it. Edited June 19, 2011 by Nic (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pero Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 In that case I'm sure most of the ones in the classifieds here would be pretty decent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 In that case I'm sure most of the ones in the classifieds here would be pretty decent? That's not something I would assume, it will depend on the particular car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 plenty of single supra here within the club, some are weekend toys pushing silly power, others are daily drivers like mine. here is a sale advert that I posted for mine before i decided to spend another 5K on a refresh, for the right price it can be up for sale again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky49 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 plenty of single supra here within the club, some are weekend toys pushing silly power, others are daily drivers like mine. here is a sale advert that I posted for mine before i decided to spend another 5K on a refresh, for the right price it can be up for sale again Hey Im keeping mine, so you have to keep yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Jimmy Durante is springing to mind here, specifically the My Stepmother is an Alien version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pero Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 I couldn't live with myself using it as a daily driver. I hate using my Coupe as a daily driver as it is. I mean, the costs don't come close to that of the Supras, but I've had the car only 10 months and have already spent nearly £5k on it and have receipts of another £8k from the previous owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Hey Im keeping mine, so you have to keep yours I go through these phases. BTW: switched on my WI system today and very impressed with how it keeps the air temps low (a good 10-20C and thats in london). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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